a) Yes b) Yes
c) I agree with Sarah – if neither subfield is present, then the name should display with no terms. There is no one term to rule them all here. d) See earlier post. I also think it would be a rare occurrence; but I prefer to plan for it in case LC decides to add both in the future. e) Agree with Sarah here as well. I like the term controlled-ish. Describes RDA in a lot of places. The list at http://www.loc.gov/marc/relators/relaterm.html is pretty comprehensive but does probably leave something out. Elaine J. Elaine Hardy PINES & Collaborative Projects Manager Georgia Public Library Service 1800 Century Place, Ste 150 Atlanta, Ga. 30345-4304 404.235.7128 404.235.7201, fax [email protected] www.georgialibraries.org www.georgialibraries.org/pines From: Open-ils-general [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sarah Childs Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 1:40 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Duplicate entry in authors.tt2 (is this bug 958954?) In response to Dan's points a) Yes. b) Yes. c) I think this is a discussion issue as well. I would prefer using no terms at all when there is no term or code, because it's not possible to sufficiently determine the relationship of the person to the work. A 700 field in a book record could be for an added author, an illustrator, an editor, a preface author, etc. For media, the possibilities are equally varied or even moreso. I think if no information is supplied in the record, we shouldn't try to supply a descriptor. Just give the name. It's frequently explained in notes or the 245. d) Yes. This but this situation would be fairly rare, so I think it's the least pressing issue. I'm fine with giving subfield 4 precedence. e) Haven't noticed anything in this area, but it would be wise to look into it and resolve if needed. The terms in RDA are controlled-ish. There is a list of terms to be used, but catalogers can supply their own if none in the list are considered appropriate. On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Dan Scott <[email protected]> wrote: It sounds like there are a few issues here, let me see if I can separate them out: a) bug: relator term $e is not being recognized as the relator, but is included in the text display along with parenthetical notation for the default relationship (e.g. 700 = (added author)) b) bug: multiple $4 relator codes are not displayed properly, where "properly" might mean something like "$700 $a White, Jack $4 cre $4 dir" should be displayed as "White, Jack (creator, director)" c) bug: the default relationship of "added author" for 7xx fields when no relator code or term is specified needs to reflect the underlying item type (e.g. for a musical recording, should display something like "Added artist") d) discussion issue: when both $e relator terms and $4 relator codes are included in the same field, it's not clear what to display e) (unknown if this is an issue, but "probably") $e relator terms and $4 relator codes may or may not be indexed as expected For my part on (d), I'm still firmly of the belief that $4 relator code should take precedence; it's value can easily be translated in the display (and is, for French) and can be used for linked data (like pointing to http://id.loc.gov/vocabulary/relators/dtc), whereas the $e relator terms are effectively uncontrolled text fields that make both translation and linked data much, much more difficult. Dan On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 8:56 AM, Hardy, Elaine <[email protected]> wrote: +1 Elaine J. Elaine Hardy PINES & Collaborative Projects Manager Georgia Public Library Service 1800 Century Place, Ste 150 Atlanta, Ga. 30345-4304 404.235.7128 404.235.7201, fax [email protected] www.georgialibraries.org www.georgialibraries.org/pines From: Open-ils-general [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sarah Childs Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 4:51 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Duplicate entry in authors.tt2 (is this bug 958954?) A summary of what I propose: If no subfield e or 4, no term should be displayed. Display subfield e if present Display terms based on codes in subfield 4 if present If both subfield e or 4 are present, display one or the other. (Either is fine with me) -- Sarah Childs Technical Services Department Head Hussey-Mayfield Memorial Public Library 250 North Fifth Street Zionsville, IN 46077 317-873-3149 x13330 [email protected]
