I've put in a request for the list to be created. Elaine
J. Elaine Hardy PINES & Collaborative Projects Manager Georgia Public Library Service/PINES 1800 Century Place, Ste. 150 Atlanta, GA 30045 404.235.7128 Office 404.548.4241 Cell 404.235.7201 FAX On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 11:19 AM, Kathy Lussier <kluss...@masslnc.org> wrote: > Ideally, a process would come before a new list, but given that this is > the third time in my memory that there has been discussion of an > acquisitions list, I have no objections. > > Kathy > > On 04/27/2017 10:58 AM, Leslie St. John wrote: > > This is not the first time the group has discussed or requested a separate > mailing list.This keeps coming up because when the group meets there is > indication that if we had the list more users would become more vocal, > which is really something we need to facilitate. I've noticed that most > of the no's are coming from people who aren't acquisitions users. Why > can't we at least try it out? If we need guidelines to surround this > process, fine, but let's make them so they allow the possibility. > Thanks for listening, > my 2 cents, > Leslie > > Leslie St. John > *PINES Services Specialist* > Georgia Public Library Service > 1800 Century Place, Suite 150 > Atlanta, GA 30345-4304 > 404-235-7129 <(404)%20235-7129> tel > 404.235.7201 <(404)%20235-7201> fax > www.georgialibraries.org > www.gapines.org > > On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 1:31 PM, Kathy Lussier <kluss...@masslnc.org> > wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I'm just catching up to this email thread now. I also saw that there was >> a similar request for a circulation list that was briefly discussed in IRC >> last week. >> >> There seems to be two schools of thought in the community about mailing >> lists. There are a lot of people who would like to see most of the >> discussions happening on just one or two lists so that nobody is missing >> out on information that may be important to them. The volume of discussion >> in the community is certainly small enough to support the idea of using >> just one or two lists for all of our communication. >> >> We also have people who prefer to communicate on topical lists that >> pertain to their area of focus. >> >> I'm one of those people who would prefer that all Evergreen discussions >> happen on the general list, but I'm also a person who feels comfortable >> posting to the general list. When the catalogers list was created a few >> years ago, I noticed a couple of people posting to the list who I had >> previously rarely seen posting on the general list. I think that's one >> value to creating these topical lists. No matter how much we tell people >> they should feel comfortable posting on any Evergreen-related topic to the >> general list, there will always be people who feel a little intimidated >> about posting to a list the goes out to the entire Evergreen community. If >> a new list gets more people comfortable with participating in the >> community, I consider it a win. >> >> Although I also sometimes hear concerns that talking too much on a given >> topic might clog up another list, I've ever heard anyone complain about >> this issue. It would be good to know if there are people who do indeed >> think there is too much traffic coming from their Evergreen list >> discussions, but I personally find the volume very low. >> >> Another factor to consider is that topical lists might give people a >> feeling that there is a place for them in the community. Since we have >> already created lists for reports and cataloging, I can see why community >> members might hope there is a similar communication platform for other >> topical areas. >> >> What we seem to be lacking is any kind of process for requesting new >> lists or guidelines about when a new list is warranted. With no process, my >> concern is that this request and the circ request will just die with no >> definitive answer. A clear 'no' answer with reasons why the list will not >> be created is better than no answer at all. >> >> I've looked around and found a couple of other communities that have some >> kind of language around new lists. >> >> Debian - https://www.debian.org/MailingLists/HOWTO_start_list (very >> vague) >> One Laptop Per Child - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Mail >> ing_lists#Starting_a_new_list >> >> If you all think this is a good idea, I would be willing to work on >> coming up with some guidelines. Also, let me know if you are interested in >> helping out. >> >> Kathy >> >> >> >> >> On 04/21/2017 09:37 AM, Rogan Hamby wrote: >> >> My concern would be that we have already seen other lists (such as the >> Sysadmin one) suffer from splintering as Jason pointed out. People may not >> sign up for a new list serv and less eyes on communication ends up being a >> detriment. >> >> The cataloging list for example I don't think is suffering from such a >> volume of messages that adding to it will create too many noise points or >> disrupt it's existing communication. So far in the whole of 2017 to date >> (109 days) we have had 23 messages on the cataloging list, so a frequency >> of just over one every five days. I think there's plenty of room in there >> for focus to happen :) >> >> And I will also echo Jason's point about development input should happen >> on the development list where possible. The dev list is not a secret club >> for coders but for development. Sometimes the lines blur and discussion of >> features, bugs, etc... happens across lists (which is healthy) but when >> things are clearly about specific development I don't see how splintering >> the communication away from the people who file bugs, test bugs, write >> patches, etc... benefits it. >> >> >> >> >> >> Rogan Hamby >> >> Data and Project Analyst >> >> Equinox Open Library Initiative >> >> phone: 1-877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457) >> >> email: ro...@equinoxinitiative.org >> web: http://EquinoxInitiative.org >> >> On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 9:03 AM, Tiffany Little < >> <tlit...@georgialibraries.org>tlit...@georgialibraries.org> wrote: >> >>> My vote would be "yes" for having a specific listserv for Acquisitions. >>> It would let the discussions be more Acq-specific instead of clogging up >>> the Catalogers' list with stuff they might not care about, and could be a >>> more focused discussion since it wouldn't be mixed in with other areas of >>> interest. >>> >>> Tiffany >>> >>> -- >>> Tiffany Little >>> *PINES Services Specialist, Acquisitions* >>> Georgia Public Library Service >>> 1800 Century Place, Suite 150 >>> Atlanta, Georgia 30345 >>> (404) 235-7160 <%28404%29%20235-7160> >>> <tlit...@georgialibraries.org>tlit...@georgialibraries.org >>> >>> On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 8:41 AM, Jason Stephenson < <ja...@sigio.com> >>> ja...@sigio.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I'd argue for "No" on the creation of an acquisitions list. Mainly for >>>> the same reasons that the administrators' list was shut down and that I >>>> disagree with the creation of a circulation list. >>>> >>>> I think the discussion of Angularization of acquisitions interfaces >>>> belongs on the development list and not on the catalogers, general, or a >>>> new list. If you want to discuss how the interface looks and works, >>>> you're a developer whether or not you write code, like it or not. >>>> >>>> Just my opinion. Your mileage may vary, etc. >>>> >>>> On 04/21/2017 08:27 AM, Elaine Hardy wrote: >>>> > Christine, >>>> > >>>> > Works for me.... >>>> > >>>> > Elaine >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > J. Elaine Hardy >>>> > PINES & Collaborative Projects Manager >>>> > Georgia Public Library Service/PINES >>>> > 1800 Century Place, Ste. 150 >>>> > Atlanta, GA 30045 >>>> > >>>> > 404.235.7128 Office >>>> > 404.548.4241 Cell >>>> > 404.235.7201 FAX >>>> > >>>> > On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 5:59 PM, Christine Burns >>>> > <christine.bu...@bc.libraries.coop >>>> > <mailto: <christine.bu...@bc.lib>christine.bu...@bc.libraries.coop>> >>>> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > Hello >>>> > >>>> > The Acquisitions Interest Group is requesting an Acquisitions >>>> > specific listserv. Currently Acquisitions falls under the >>>> > Cataloguers list with the rest of technicial services. During the >>>> > Acquisitions Interest Group meeting at the Evergreen Conference >>>> this >>>> > month the group discussed the need for an Acquisitions specific >>>> > listserv to facilitate AIG activity. We are anticipating an >>>> > increased amount of Acquisitions specific discussions during the >>>> > Angularization of the Acquisitions module in the web client. >>>> > >>>> > This topic is open for discussion please voice your opinion by >>>> > *Friday May 5th*. >>>> > >>>> > A copy of the meeting minutes can be found on the Acquisitions >>>> > Interest Group wiki page here - >>>> > https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=acq:interest-group >>>> > < <https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=acq:interest-group> >>>> https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=acq:interest-group> >>>> > >>>> > Thank you >>>> > Christine >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > Christine Burns >>>> > Co-op Support >>>> > BC Libraries Cooperative >>>> > Ph: 1-888-848-9250 <tel:(888)%20848-9250> >>>> > https://bc.libraries.coop >>>> > https://status.libraries.coop/ >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Kathy Lussier >> Project Coordinator >> Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative(508) 343-0128kluss...@masslnc.org >> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier >> >> -- > Kathy Lussier > Project Coordinator > Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative(508) 343-0128kluss...@masslnc.org > Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier > >