I think the proposed changes to the display would be good. As would the
addition of navigation from within records.



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On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 3:56 PM, Sarah Childs <sar...@zionsvillelibrary.org>
wrote:

> These proposed changes seem unobjectionable to me. For my purposes, it
> makes it neither worse, nor significantly better. I'm not highly concerned
> about having a lot of room for my search results to be listed, because most
> of the searches I perform retrieve fewer than five results. If a search has
> more results than that, the time consuming part is not scrolling, it's
> examining each record to evaluate and compare them. So I still think being
> able to arrow through the records in display view would be a much more
> useful, functional change than making more room for the list of records.
>
> On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 2:59 PM, Jeanette Lundgren <jlundg...@cwmars.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Here is a link to a screenshot of the current Z39.50 search query and a
>> mockup of what a horizontal display (modeled after the patron search) might
>> look like.
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/17_2g_W6qZGufwdOuMLP0hRXv
>> i7yTssMpuYw2rianMJQ/edit?usp=sharing
>>
>> Thanks for your feedback!
>> Jeanette
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 1:24 PM, Jeanette Lundgren <jlundg...@cwmars.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Sarah,
>>> Thank you for the feedback.
>>>
>>> I'm using a 20" horizontal monitor (about 10.5" tall x 18" wide) at 1280
>>> x 1024 resolution.
>>> On the Z39.50 Query screen, I can see the query form, search buttons and
>>> 7 rows of the search result
>>> On the patron search screen, I can see the search form, search buttons
>>> and 21 rows of the search result and when minimized I can see 28 rows
>>> before having to scroll.
>>>
>>> I know scrolling largely depends on monitor size and resolution.  The
>>> library staff member who brought this up needs to use a bigger font for
>>> vision and she finds on her resolution she has to scroll just to see/click
>>> the search button.
>>>
>>> I'm curious to know if anyone else has had this issue reported and if
>>> you think making the two interfaces more consistent would be beneficial.
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 12:00 PM, <open-ils-general-request@list
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>>>> One of the organizers from the Southern California Linux Expo contacted
>>>> us via the Evergreen Facebook page to ask if the Evergreen project would
>>>> be interested in a donated booth at the conference to help promote the
>>>> project to attendees. If there is anyone in the area who might be
>>>> interested in attending the conference and talking about Evergreen at a
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>>>> Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2018 12:41:14 -0500
>>>> From: Sarah Childs <sar...@zionsvillelibrary.org>
>>>> To: Evergreen Discussion Group
>>>>         <open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Web Client - Z39.50 Interface
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>>>> I can't really visualize what you are proposing, and to me the display
>>>> is
>>>> fine. (It all displays on the screen for me, no vertical or horizontal
>>>> scrolling) I thought the display was much more of an issue before the
>>>> webclient, when the MARC record displayed in the window below the search
>>>> panels.
>>>>
>>>> The only scrolling issue I have for the Z39.50 page in the webclient is
>>>> the
>>>> record view, where the cover image is stacked on top of the MARC
>>>> record, so
>>>> you have to scroll past it to see the record.  If they were side by
>>>> side,
>>>> the webclient display would be an improvement over the old client, were
>>>> you
>>>> *do* have to scroll to see the whole MARC record, due to the windows as
>>>> noted above.
>>>>
>>>> The other problem I have with the Z39.50 interface is that it when you
>>>> have
>>>> multiple search results, it takes three clicks to look at each record.
>>>> It
>>>> would be much more useful if when you had multiple results, there were
>>>> next/back or arrow buttons so you could click through to view the
>>>> different
>>>> results, rather than having to close the record you're looking at, click
>>>> the next record you want to look at, and then clicking view MARC.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 11:56 AM, Jeanette Lundgren <
>>>> jlundg...@cwmars.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Hi everyone,
>>>> >
>>>> > We've received some feedback from a few of our libraries that use
>>>> Z39.50
>>>> > in Evergreen that the 3.0 Z39.50 Query form takes up too much vertical
>>>> > space and requires a lot of scrolling.  We were thinking that it
>>>> might be
>>>> > worthwhile to model this screen after the patron search screen which
>>>> uses a
>>>> > more horizontal layout.
>>>> >
>>>> > Some advantages of the patron search screen
>>>> > - Stack fields horizontally - less vertical scrolling
>>>> > - list field names inside boxes - less horizontal space
>>>> > - Ability to add a tab for services and credentials information
>>>> > - Move search button to top row of query form
>>>> > - Make a minimized query option available (allow top row to remain)
>>>> >
>>>> > In addition we may want to add vertical checkboxes for configured
>>>> services
>>>> > to top of query form to allow users to easily check/uncheck services
>>>> and
>>>> > run/rerun searches
>>>> >
>>>> > I wanted to ask the community for feedback as this would change the
>>>> > look/feel of the current Z39.50 interface.
>>>> >
>>>> > Thanks for your thoughts!
>>>> >
>>>> > Jeanette
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> >
>>>> > ​
>>>> >
>>>> > Jeanette Lundgren | Manager Library Applications | CW MARS
>>>> >
>>>> > jlundg...@cwmars.org | 508-755-3323 x 330 <(508)%20755-3323>
>>>> >
>>>> > http:// <http://www.cwmars.org/>www.cwmars.org
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Sarah Childs
>>>> Technical Services Department Head
>>>> Hussey-Mayfield Memorial Public Library
>>>> 250 North Fifth Street
>>>> Zionsville, IN 46077
>>>> 317-873-3149 x13330
>>>> sar...@zionsvillelibrary.org
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>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> ​
>>>
>>> Jeanette Lundgren | Manager Library Applications | CW MARS
>>>
>>> jlundg...@cwmars.org | 508-755-3323 x 330 <(508)%20755-3323>
>>>
>>> http:// <http://www.cwmars.org/>www.cwmars.org
>>>
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>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> ​
>>
>> Jeanette Lundgren | Manager Library Applications | CW MARS
>>
>> jlundg...@cwmars.org | 508-755-3323 x 330 <(508)%20755-3323>
>>
>> http:// <http://www.cwmars.org/>www.cwmars.org
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Sarah Childs
> Technical Services Department Head
> Hussey-Mayfield Memorial Public Library
> 250 North Fifth Street
> Zionsville, IN 46077
> 317-873-3149 x13330
> sar...@zionsvillelibrary.org
>

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