I like the sound of these changes.  The more uniformity there is across
Evergreen's many different interfaces, the better.

If possible, though, it would be great for your new design to be more
accessibility-focused than the current patron search form is.  That search
form does not have accessible form controls, which makes it less usable for
folks using screen readers or who have motor disabilities.  More info here:
https://webaim.org/techniques/forms/controls

On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 7:01 AM, Elaine Hardy <eha...@georgialibraries.org>
wrote:

> I think the proposed changes to the display would be good. As would the
> addition of navigation from within records.
>
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> On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 3:56 PM, Sarah Childs <sar...@zionsvillelibrary.org
> > wrote:
>
>> These proposed changes seem unobjectionable to me. For my purposes, it
>> makes it neither worse, nor significantly better. I'm not highly concerned
>> about having a lot of room for my search results to be listed, because most
>> of the searches I perform retrieve fewer than five results. If a search has
>> more results than that, the time consuming part is not scrolling, it's
>> examining each record to evaluate and compare them. So I still think being
>> able to arrow through the records in display view would be a much more
>> useful, functional change than making more room for the list of records.
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 2:59 PM, Jeanette Lundgren <jlundg...@cwmars.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Here is a link to a screenshot of the current Z39.50 search query and a
>>> mockup of what a horizontal display (modeled after the patron search) might
>>> look like.
>>>
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/17_2g_W6qZGufwdOuMLP0hRXv
>>> i7yTssMpuYw2rianMJQ/edit?usp=sharing
>>>
>>> Thanks for your feedback!
>>> Jeanette
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 1:24 PM, Jeanette Lundgren <jlundg...@cwmars.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Sarah,
>>>> Thank you for the feedback.
>>>>
>>>> I'm using a 20" horizontal monitor (about 10.5" tall x 18" wide) at
>>>> 1280 x 1024 resolution.
>>>> On the Z39.50 Query screen, I can see the query form, search buttons
>>>> and 7 rows of the search result
>>>> On the patron search screen, I can see the search form, search buttons
>>>> and 21 rows of the search result and when minimized I can see 28 rows
>>>> before having to scroll.
>>>>
>>>> I know scrolling largely depends on monitor size and resolution.  The
>>>> library staff member who brought this up needs to use a bigger font for
>>>> vision and she finds on her resolution she has to scroll just to see/click
>>>> the search button.
>>>>
>>>> I'm curious to know if anyone else has had this issue reported and if
>>>> you think making the two interfaces more consistent would be beneficial.
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 12:00 PM, <open-ils-general-request@list
>>>> .georgialibraries.org> wrote:
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>>>>>    1. Opportunity for donated booth at Southern California Linux
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>>>>>    2. Re: Web Client - Z39.50 Interface (Sarah Childs)
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>>>>> Message: 1
>>>>> Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2018 12:03:24 -0500
>>>>> From: Kathy Lussier <kluss...@masslnc.org>
>>>>> To: 'Evergreen Discussion Group'
>>>>>         <open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org>
>>>>> Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Opportunity for donated booth at Southern
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>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> One of the organizers from the Southern California Linux Expo contacted
>>>>> us via the Evergreen Facebook page to ask if the Evergreen project
>>>>> would
>>>>> be interested in a donated booth at the conference to help promote the
>>>>> project to attendees. If there is anyone in the area who might be
>>>>> interested in attending the conference and talking about Evergreen at a
>>>>> booth, feel free to send me an email directly. The Outreach Committee
>>>>> would be able to send you some materials for the booth.
>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>> Message: 2
>>>>> Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2018 12:41:14 -0500
>>>>> From: Sarah Childs <sar...@zionsvillelibrary.org>
>>>>> To: Evergreen Discussion Group
>>>>>         <open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Web Client - Z39.50 Interface
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>>>>>
>>>>> I can't really visualize what you are proposing, and to me the display
>>>>> is
>>>>> fine. (It all displays on the screen for me, no vertical or horizontal
>>>>> scrolling) I thought the display was much more of an issue before the
>>>>> webclient, when the MARC record displayed in the window below the
>>>>> search
>>>>> panels.
>>>>>
>>>>> The only scrolling issue I have for the Z39.50 page in the webclient
>>>>> is the
>>>>> record view, where the cover image is stacked on top of the MARC
>>>>> record, so
>>>>> you have to scroll past it to see the record.  If they were side by
>>>>> side,
>>>>> the webclient display would be an improvement over the old client,
>>>>> were you
>>>>> *do* have to scroll to see the whole MARC record, due to the windows as
>>>>> noted above.
>>>>>
>>>>> The other problem I have with the Z39.50 interface is that it when you
>>>>> have
>>>>> multiple search results, it takes three clicks to look at each
>>>>> record.  It
>>>>> would be much more useful if when you had multiple results, there were
>>>>> next/back or arrow buttons so you could click through to view the
>>>>> different
>>>>> results, rather than having to close the record you're looking at,
>>>>> click
>>>>> the next record you want to look at, and then clicking view MARC.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 11:56 AM, Jeanette Lundgren <
>>>>> jlundg...@cwmars.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > Hi everyone,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > We've received some feedback from a few of our libraries that use
>>>>> Z39.50
>>>>> > in Evergreen that the 3.0 Z39.50 Query form takes up too much
>>>>> vertical
>>>>> > space and requires a lot of scrolling.  We were thinking that it
>>>>> might be
>>>>> > worthwhile to model this screen after the patron search screen which
>>>>> uses a
>>>>> > more horizontal layout.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Some advantages of the patron search screen
>>>>> > - Stack fields horizontally - less vertical scrolling
>>>>> > - list field names inside boxes - less horizontal space
>>>>> > - Ability to add a tab for services and credentials information
>>>>> > - Move search button to top row of query form
>>>>> > - Make a minimized query option available (allow top row to remain)
>>>>> >
>>>>> > In addition we may want to add vertical checkboxes for configured
>>>>> services
>>>>> > to top of query form to allow users to easily check/uncheck services
>>>>> and
>>>>> > run/rerun searches
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I wanted to ask the community for feedback as this would change the
>>>>> > look/feel of the current Z39.50 interface.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Thanks for your thoughts!
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Jeanette
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > --
>>>>> >
>>>>> > ​
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Jeanette Lundgren | Manager Library Applications | CW MARS
>>>>> >
>>>>> > jlundg...@cwmars.org | 508-755-3323 x 330 <(508)%20755-3323>
>>>>> >
>>>>> > http:// <http://www.cwmars.org/>www.cwmars.org
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Sarah Childs
>>>>> Technical Services Department Head
>>>>> Hussey-Mayfield Memorial Public Library
>>>>> 250 North Fifth Street
>>>>> Zionsville, IN 46077
>>>>> 317-873-3149 x13330
>>>>> sar...@zionsvillelibrary.org
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> ​
>>>>
>>>> Jeanette Lundgren | Manager Library Applications | CW MARS
>>>>
>>>> jlundg...@cwmars.org | 508-755-3323 x 330 <(508)%20755-3323>
>>>>
>>>> http:// <http://www.cwmars.org/>www.cwmars.org
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> ​
>>>
>>> Jeanette Lundgren | Manager Library Applications | CW MARS
>>>
>>> jlundg...@cwmars.org | 508-755-3323 x 330 <(508)%20755-3323>
>>>
>>> http:// <http://www.cwmars.org/>www.cwmars.org
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sarah Childs
>> Technical Services Department Head
>> Hussey-Mayfield Memorial Public Library
>> 250 North Fifth Street
>> Zionsville, IN 46077
>> 317-873-3149 x13330
>> sar...@zionsvillelibrary.org
>>
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