Hello,

 If the loss exceeds the timeout value yes.  If the 'drive' doesn't come
back in 30 to 60 seconds it's not likely a transitory event like a cable
pull.

NOOP-IN and NOOP-OUT are also know as KeepAlive.  That's when the
connection is up but the target or initiator isn't responding.   If those
timeout the connection will be dropped and a new connection attempt made.

 Don


On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 2:44 PM The Lee-Man <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 12:31:24 AM UTC-7, Gionatan Danti wrote:
>>
>> [reposting, as the previous one seems to be lost]
>>
>> Hi all,
>> I have a question regarding udev events when using iscsi disks.
>>
>> By using "udevadm monitor" I can see that events are generated when I
>> login and logout from an iscsi portal/resource, creating/destroying the
>> relative links under /dev/
>>
>> However, I can not see anything when the remote machine simple
>> dies/reboots/disconnects: while "dmesg" shows the iscsi timeout expiring, I
>> don't see anything about a removed disk (and the links under /dev/ remains
>> unaltered, indeed). At the same time, when the remote machine and disk
>> become available again, no reconnection events happen.
>>
>
> Because of the design of iSCSI, there is no way for the initiator to know
> the server has gone away. The only time an initiator might figure this out
> is when it tries to communicate with the target.
>
> This assumes we are not using some sort of directory service, like iSNS,
> which can send asynchronous notifications. But even then, the iSNS server
> would have to somehow know that the target went down. If the target
> crashed, that might be difficult to ascertain.
>
> So in the absence of some asynchronous notification, the initiator only
> knows the target is not responding if it tries to talk to that target.
>
> Normally iscsid defaults to sending periodic NO-OPs to the target every 5
> seconds. So if the target goes away, the initiator usually notices, even if
> no regular I/O is occurring.
>
> But this is where the error recovery gets tricky, because iscsi tries to
> handle "lossy" connections. What if the server will be right back? Maybe
> it's rebooting? Maybe the cable will be plugged back in? So iscsi keeps
> trying to reconnect. As a matter of fact, if you stop iscsid and restart
> it, it sees the failed connection and retries it -- forever, by default. I
> actually added a configuration parameter called reopen_max, that can limit
> the number of retries. But there was pushback on changing the default value
> from 0, which is "retry forever".
>
> So what exactly do you think the system should do when a connection "goes
> away"? How long does it have to be gone to be considered gone for good? If
> the target comes back "later" should it get the same disc name? Should we
> retry, and if so how much before we give up? I'm interested in your views,
> since it seems like a non-trivial problem to me.
>
>>
>> I can read here that, years ago, a patch was in progress to give better
>> integration with udev when a device disconnects/reconnects. Did the patch
>> got merged? Or does the one I described above remain the expected behavior?
>> Can be changed?
>>
>
> So you're saying as soon as a bad connection is detected (perhaps by a
> NOOP), the device should go away?
>
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
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