Time to move to NetBSD? ;) -derek
"Neulinger, Nathan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > FYI. > > Oh well... I wanted a good reason to push for dropping campus support > for HP-UX anyway. This is a pretty damn good one in my book. > > -- Nathan > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Nathan Neulinger EMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > University of Missouri - Rolla Phone: (573) 341-4841 > Computing Services Fax: (573) 341-4216 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: WEST,WAYNE (HP-USA,ex3) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 10:21 AM > To: Neulinger, Nathan; Bruce Perens; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; PERENS,BRUCE (HP-FtCollins,ex1); GRINDELAND,DAVE > (HP-FtCollins,unix1); WEST,WAYNE (HP-USA,ex3) > Subject: RE: VFS/VM headers for HP-UX (was [parisc-linux] Mozilla) > > > Without going into all of the details, I need to put this issue to rest. > There were several discussions with the lab owners of HP-UX as well as > very > high level management. All of this came out of discussions with Transarc > who > had also requested source to finish their port to 11i. It was determined > that there is IP in the reqested files and that the code would not be > turned > over to Transarc or the Open source community. > > So the bottom line is that there will not be a release of the code to > Open > Source. Sorry for the bad news, but management believes it is not in > HP's > best interest to do so. > > Wayne West > Solution Specialist > Advanced Technology Group > Hewlett-Packard Co. > 1711 W. Greentree Drive, Suite 111 > Tempe, AZ 85284 > (480) 293-2548 Direct > (480) 293-2431 Fax > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Nathan Neulinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 3:47 PM > To: Bruce Perens; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: VFS/VM headers for HP-UX (was [parisc-linux] Mozilla) > > > FYI in case it helps narrow down exactly what we were looking for: > > On Thu, 28 Mar 2002, Neulinger, Nathan wrote: > > > Ok. Is there anyone at HP that you/IBM/CoE/etc. has been > talking > to > that > > is aware of this? i.e. someone that would be able to say > "Yeah, > they > > want this piece here, this is why we haven't been giving it to > them..." > > IBM doesn't care. > They have what they need. > > "GRINDELAND,DAVE (HP-FtCollins,unix1)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > "WEST,WAYNE (HP-USA,ex3)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Dave was supposed to be "working on it" in October. > > Bruce, any help you can provide in this area would be greatly > appreciated! > > -- Nathan > > "Neulinger, Nathan" wrote: > > > > I wouldn't tend to think so, VFS not VxFS... Unless HP-UX's core > > in-kernel filesystem interfaces are written by veritas, I would think > it > > wouldn't be veritas's code. > > > > -- Nathan > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > Nathan Neulinger EMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > University of Missouri - Rolla Phone: (573) 341-4841 > > Computing Services Fax: (573) 341-4216 > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Bruce Perens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 4:06 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Neulinger, Nathan > > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: [parisc-linux] Mozilla, etc. > > > > > > > > > Sometimes this is third-party code not owned by HP. If it > > > comes from Veritas, we're > > > probably hosed. > > > > > > Bruce > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Grant Grundler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 4:02 PM > > > To: Neulinger, Nathan > > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: [parisc-linux] Mozilla, etc. > > > > > > > > > "Neulinger, Nathan" wrote: > > > > This isn't really related to parisc-linux, but do you think > > > there is any > > > > chance you could help along the cause of getting the information > the > > > > OpenAFS project needs to re-enable support for HP-UX kernel > > > filesystem > > > > development? > > > > > > maybe...there is a group of folks interested in supporting open > source > > > projects and I'd really need to point you to one of them. > > > > I'd be very interested in getting in contact with them. > > > > > > Transarc AFS had full support for HP-UX, but it was not > > > included due to > > > > legal restrictions. > > > > > > bah...this is something that Bruce Perens doesn't like to hear. > > > > It really was a shame. OpenAFS has really taken off and supports quite > a > > bit more than Transarc's, but for HP-UX only, it took a step backwards > > from supported, to not supported. (Transarc's closed binaries still > > support HP-UX, but the open-source version doesn't.) > > > > > > I can try to get more specific info, but things like the headers > for > > > > definitions of vfspage_t, k_off_t, and other related kernel > > > definitions. > > > > > > If those are only visibile to HPUX kernel and sources a full source > > > tree to see, then it's possible but harder. If you can find those > > > things in publicly visible source files, then I was under the > > > impression > > > it's ok to "leverage". > > > > > > It might be easier to go back to the code that's under legal > > > restrictions > > > and review if that's really necessary (ie can be removed or is no > > > longer sensitive IP). > > > > It's possible, I wouldn't think that definitions of interfaces would > be > > too sensitive. (Unless you're MS of course.) > > > > Anything you can pass along or direct me to would be great. > > > > -- Nathan > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Nathan Neulinger EMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > University of Missouri - Rolla Phone: (573) 341-4841 > Computing Services Fax: (573) 341-4216 > _______________________________________________ > OpenAFS-devel mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.openafs.org/mailman/listinfo/openafs-devel -- Derek Atkins, SB '93 MIT EE, SM '95 MIT Media Laboratory Member, MIT Student Information Processing Board (SIPB) URL: http://web.mit.edu/warlord/ PP-ASEL-IA N1NWH [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP key available _______________________________________________ OpenAFS-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.openafs.org/mailman/listinfo/openafs-devel
