Thanks for the response, Jeffrey.

I'm mostly concerned with the change between 1.3.73 and 1.3.74 since anything after 1.3.73 breaks in our environment.

Our servers are TransArc v3.6 and the admins are too overwhelmed with other priorities to update it, which is very unfortunate. I don't believe it supports K5.

I've poured through afs-install-notes and have found some gems, but also found some confusing points: "If KFW is installed, the Integrated Logon will use Kerberos 5 to obtain tokens. Otherwise, Kerberos 4 is used."

This is confusing, since our installation uses Integrated Logon and KFW, but I believe we can only get tokens with K4 tickets because of the TransArc server. I did a couple days of testing NOT using Integrated logon because this verbage led me to believe it would be requesting a token with a K5 ticket from our servers. When I finally did install using the Int. Logon option, I was very surprised when 1.3.73 worked.

In terms of what is not working:
Any version past 1.3.73 (even on a clean bare XP SP2 box), will hang Explorer when I attempt to map an afs path using the afscreds GUI or cmd line "net use x: //afs/cats.ucsc.edu/users/t/mcintyre". We have a cross-realm authentication scheme, so KFW gets the tickets automatically. I disable AFS tokens within KFW, because I found that it confuses the AFS client (this might have been fixed, dunno). THe workstations are used in general access labs, so we run a script that runs afscreds -a -q, finds their AFS path via LDAP, creates a submount (I know you're against this now), and maps the X: drive to //afs/home. For testing, I've disabled the logon script and ran it all by hand. Everything works like a charm until I actually try to mount an AFS path.

1.3.73 seems to be working well now, but we're very concerned about it and we've put it on "probation". During the summer, we've had about 10% of the lab machines hang at login when the AFS script runs. Since this failure rate is unacceptable, and we're very concerned that some new hotfix will break the version of the AFS client that we're stuck at, we're starting to research other methods of accessing the user's home directory, like Explorer integrated SFTP clients (MKS, Hummingbird, Web Drive, etc). It's currently contentious, since I'm advocating for the SSO aspects of AFS, but others in our group are concerned about stability and reliability... I wish I could wave my magic wand and have our AFS servers updated, but that's not going to happen any time soon.

Charles




At 02:37 PM 8/10/2005, Jeffrey Altman wrote:
Charles McIntyre wrote:
> We've been able to get OpenAFS 1.3.73 with KfW 2.6.5 to work with our
> cross-realm Kerberos login, but any version after that breaks Windows.
>
> What changed from 1.3.73 to 1.3.74 and subsequent versions?  I looked at
> the changes doc, but nothing rang out...
>
> We've even tried installing 1.3.74+ on a base XP Pro SP2 system and it
> still hangs explorer.  I'm wondering if it has something to do with our
> server software.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks!
> Charles

Lots of things have changed since 1.3.73.

What is the version of the servers in your cell?   Does it support
Kerberos 5?  (aka OpenAFS 1.2.8 or higher?)

Have you followed the debugging instructions in the
afs-install-notes.txt file?

What is not working?   Integrated Login?   Obtaining tokens with the
AFS System Tray tool?

Jeffrey Altman




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Instructional Computing
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