> It and its friends can be found at ftp://achilles.ctd.anl.gov/pub/DEE
> pam_afs2-0.1.tar
> gafstoken-0.3.tar
> gssklog-0.11.tar

This is the beast I was referring to. I'm sorry I was too lazy to check
who created it and properly credit you.

> The design goals of all of this was to keep AFS as far away from
> Kerberos as possible, and never have to rely on a vendor's daemon to
> have to link (even dynamically via pam) with either and especially with
> both.

I agree that this is the cleanest way to go. And it is in good old unix
philosophy that one thing does one thing - "ls" does not remove files and
"rm" does not list them. =)

I never tried it, though, except for debugging other pam modules (I used
it to all a little shell script). The reason was that it did not appear
have any signs of activity since a year ago and I shun inactive upstreams.
Obviously, I was wrong. Perhaps you just made such a damn good module that
it needs no further development? =) Testing pam_afs2 and friends is now
back on my todo list...

Perhaps someone would like to start maintaining a Debian package of these
three? I'd do that myself but I lack the status of a DD (that could be
corrected, though).

> The gssapi used in gssklog does not even have to be Kerberos! It was
> originally designed for use with the Globus GSI gssapi. (But that is

It might be a very important story for us, since we participate in two
grid projects (NorduGrid: http://www.nordugrid.dk and M-grid:
http://www.csc.fi/proj/mgrid/) which both use Globus.

> gssklog. ( There is no MIT or Heimdal Kerberos on these machines, other
> then what the AFS kernel has built in.)

This sounds like the way to go: separate OpenAFS and Kerberos
*implementations* as well as possible. The fact that AFS uses Kerberos
internally means this is a little more complicated an issue than just not
linking with kerberos, but still you're obviously going the right way.

Cheers,
Juha

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                | Laboratory of Theoretical Physics             |
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