On Feb 17, 2014, at 19:48 , Jukka Tuominen wrote:

> Do you accept euros? :)
> 
> I just think that this might be a good time to get European funding for 
> Internet security projects like this?

It would probably take much more than adequate funding for a solid 
implementation to get such a feature in. In particular, more funding - and more 
time than a funding agency will ever grant you for delivering something.

> Personally, I feel a bit bad that a great system like OpenAFS needs to be 
> stitched with a separate VPN and file encryption software, when it could be 
> all built-in.

Combining tools doing their jobs well is not a bad strategy. Using EncFS with 
OpenAFS as the backend sounds interesting. Alas, it seems a bit stale.

        Stephan

> 
> Best
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 17.2.2014, at 18.35, Jeffrey Altman <jalt...@your-file-system.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2/17/2014 11:10 AM, Troy Benjegerdes wrote:
>>> Could some of the professionals here please estimate a direct dollar cost 
>>> for
>>> such a thing?
>> 
>> Who is going to pay for the design and estimation efforts?
>> 
>> There are many approaches that can be used but before selecting one over
>> another it is important to perform a threat analysis to determine which
>> risks the solution must protect against and what the use cases are.
>> 
>> For any estimate to be reasonable there will need to a work break down
>> of the implementation tasks.
>> 
>> It would not be unreasonable for such a design analysis and work break
>> down to cost $10,000.
>> 
>> An implementation that could be used by banks or government agencies
>> would easily cost hundreds of thousands of U.S. dollars and take a year
>> or more.
>> 
>> Jeffrey Altman

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