(forwarding to the list)

On 25 August 2013 06:05, Morency, Louis-Philippe
<louis-philippe.more...@usherbrooke.ca> wrote:
> Excellent question you asked. I'm trying to convince my colleagues to drop 
> the pdb format in favor of the mol2 format but, actually, we use the pdb 
> format as output in a molecular docking software we develop because it's 
> common (even if you lose a lot of precious informations compared to other 
> formats). Until we update the software, I'm still looking for an easy way to 
> add explicit hydrogens to a docking pose and I would like to know something 
> in OpenBabel API could help into adding hydrogens from the original ligand 
> structure (mol2 format) and a ligand conformation (without hydrogen) in pdb 
> format.
>
> Thanks for your answer,
>
> Louis-Philippe Morency
>
> On 2013-08-24, at 17:53, "Noel O'Boyle" <baoille...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Any particular reason you are using PDB files to store chemical
>> structures? PDB files don't contain bond order information, so Open
>> Babel has to guess it. If you just stored the structure in MOL2 or
>> MOL, with the correct bond orders, you wouldn't have this problem.
>>
>> - Noel
>>
>> On 22 August 2013 22:07, Morency, Louis-Philippe
>> <louis-philippe.more...@usherbrooke.ca> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'm currently struggling with the obabel software (version 2.3.90) when I
>>> use it to convert pdb files of ligands into mol2 files and adding hydrogens
>>> to a docking pose (hydrogens are implicit during the docking process). My
>>> problem is the hydrogens added tend to break aromaticity in aromatic rings
>>> and, more specifically, into pyrimidine-alike rings. The geometry of the
>>> added hydrogens are not realistic.
>>>
>>> I have included two files (try.pdb which is converted in try.mol2 using the
>>> following command line : "obabel -ipdb try.pdb -omol2 -O try2.mol2 -p 7.0"
>>> and the same result is produced using "obabel -ipdb try.pdb -omol2 -O
>>> try2.mol2 -h") showing the current problem. If you look closely at try.mol2,
>>> a hydrogen is placed on the C4 atom and three hydrogen are added on the N3
>>> atom forming a NH3 instead of having a single NH2 bonded to C4. The real 3D
>>> structure of the ligand (before rendering hydrogens implicit) is shown in
>>> ZINC01244402.mol2 file which has been download from
>>> http://zinc.docking.org/substance/1244402 in mol2 format.
>>>
>>> Prior to version 2.3.90, I was using version 2.3.2 of OpenBabel and the
>>> addition of hydrogens on ligands was way more unreliable than it is in the
>>> current version. I saw a major upgrade with the current version, but still
>>> cannot rely on it for realistic chemical 3D structures.
>>>
>>> Any idea how it could be improved or fixed ?
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>>
>>> Louis-Philippe Morency
>>> Étudiant à la Maîtrise
>>> Laboratoire du Pr Rafael Najmanovich
>>> Faculté de Médecine et des Sciences de la Santé (FMSS)
>>> Université de Sherbrooke
>>> louis-philippe.more...@usherbrooke.ca
>>>
>>>
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