Jomlian does have a valid and interesting point.

Me personally, I don't mind setting up things and tinkering around getting
stuff to work.

But the intranet apps I have developed all had to be "turnkey" so they could
be simply moved from one server to another, Mysql is the only thing that
does not run from the app folder.

There really is something to be developed here that does not exist yet.

A complete CFML / MySql / http server all running from a folder. A backup
would just mean a copy of the folder.

It sounds like a good path to be on.


On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 2:00 AM, jomlian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> Thanks,
> I'll have a look a these solutions. I totally accept what you're
> saying. My point is that open source programming has to go twice as
> far (ease of use) to be chosen over the big players. That's what mac
> trades on all of the time to get market share. If it can't be set up
> straight away by dummies (my boss and me) then we default back to the
> big companies who'll charge us a fortune but be around for years so we
> can eventually get what we want. I use open source stuff personally
> but I won't hang around fiddling with setting stuff up (too many
> wasted hours). Rather, I want to start playing with the apps (e.g.
> FarCry). I know I'm being a bit of a b**tard here but, and I wasn't
> looking for this sort of a discussion, it's the truth.
>
> I'm still keen to look at some more quick setups as CF is really
> impressive.
>
> Cheers,
> Jomlian.
>
> On Oct 15, 12:45 pm, Matthew Woodward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > jomlian wrote:
> > > I could set up mysql or postresql on  my machine but the fun stops
> > > when I try to take it to work and show others. My technical skills
> > > don't stretch that far no there's. Coldfusion is great and has a lot
> > > of potential (e.g. FarCry) but if the backend is only 3/4 ready to
> > > install it loses the 'how easy is this to run' factor that non tech's
> > > are looking for.
> >
> > Once you set this up once if you used something like H2 as your
> > database, it could be a one-click distribution. I don't think anyone's
> > done it yet but it certainly wouldn't be a lot of work.
> >
> > That's one of the great things about OpenBD--someone can put the pieces
> > together once and, depending on the licenses of the various parts
> > involved, distribute it freely.
> >
> > Nitai has just released a forum application that's "drop and go":
> http://www.kabunto.org/
> >
> > And his digital asset management application is very similar in
> deployment:http://www.razuna.com/
> >
> > These serve as a great example of what can be done as far as one-click
> > deployments go.
> >
> > > I'll still try to get it to work (and again thanks for your response)
> > > but a 'standalone' installation should include the db server.
> >
> > Well, this is certainly one way to look at things but again, all it
> > takes is someone to do the little bit of work involved once and
> > redistribute it. I just don't think anyone's done this with FarCry yet.
> > And remember that even being able to do this with CFML applications is
> > new to the CFML world since prior to OpenBD it wasn't possible to do
> > this because of license restrictions associated with the CFML engine
> itself.
> >
> > Matt
> >
> > --
> > Matt Woodward
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]://www.mattwoodward.com/blog
> >
> > Please do not send me proprietary file formats such as Word, PowerPoint,
> etc. as attachments.http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
> >
> >  smime.p7s
> > 4KViewDownload
>
> >
>


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