No, should be no blame at all on the OpenBD Team. GAE in the beta stage was for sure anything but fun for them to keep up to date with. To that the reluctance from Google to fix things in this time period. Just let's hope that, since it's now out of the Beta and should be "kind of" stable... it might be worth to give it a last try.
I for sure really like the idea of the OpenBD GAE. I also really like the ease of use with the Jelastic where I simply can deploy any standard application without any changes are specific coding for that platform... only... I don't know how much this fun will cost me in the end since this ain't defined yet on there side. At the moment we'll just have to be a bit patient... lot's going on including the cfObjective() around the corner where several of our good people are involved... /Mats/ On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Alex Skinner <[email protected]> wrote: > I'll start off by saying I was Posting on the gae mailing list about this > very issue. However it's not that straight forward and the engineering > effort of supporting it i gather is reasonably significant by comparison to > the number that use it and the fact that it can break again at any point > and u have little influence to get it fixed quickly. > > I agree it's attractive but don't think for most folk it's just about > putting your app on there and running it. > > No traditional db > No file system access well limited with a virtual system created. > > Which means some engineering with gae in > Mind. Ultimately you're right it's a differentiator but how many people > use it really vs chucking up some free apps and tinkering. > > The fact is now there are other PAAS Vendors out there now that don't need > a special openbd version for example jelastic and cloudbees > > I'd like to see it continue to be supported but I wouldnt blame Alan and > co if they said nope life's to short to invest in a single platform > compatibility lets use the time to enhance the engine. Ultimately had we > been locked out for a week or month I might think differently. > > My 2p > > A > > > > On Wednesday, 18 January 2012, james <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Matthew, > > > > Thanks for the prompt response. > > > > I really feel that the GAE feature of OpenBD is of paramount > > importance, I see Google's GAE platform as becoming a key player in > > the cloud computing space. One of the joys of cfml development is the > > speed at which we can develop applications. For me this often leads to > > small applications which I'm at pains to dispose of and reluctant to > > pay for traditional hosting. GAE allows me to very quickly deploy my > > applications to the cloud and pay very little, normally flying within > > the free tier. Within hours I can have eclipse set up, test my app and > > deploy straight from eclipse to the cloud where it can be viewed > > worldwide. Removing tremendous barriers to deployment associated with > > traditional hosting and licensing. > > > > I'm not aware of many cloud computing alternatives, yes you can start > > an amazon ec2 instance but that involves maintaining a full server. > > Adobe's offering of course involves spending money and license > > complications. If you're questioning why use GAE at all when there are > > other cloud offerings out there, you could (without meaning to sound > > rude) ask the same question of BD completely. Bottom line this feature > > gives you a leg up on your competition which shouldn't be ignored. > > > > I understand that of course GAE means a dependency for you folks who > > are good enough to program and distribute openBD and consequently you > > are reluctant to continue GAE integration at all. I think however It's > > a valuable feature and any feature expansion over your competition > > leads to a better overall product and larger user base. Any new > > application or feature requires some maintenance and to be honest you > > could do much worse that having Google themselves as a dependency. As > > you yourself mention, hopefully GAE evolving from beta and in fact now > > charging for some tiers means they themselves are settling down and > > taking it much more seriously. > > > > I regret that as I mentioned my Java skills are in no way production > > ready otherwise I'd be much more committed to a project I'm obviously > > passionate about. > > > > Hope this goes someway to persuading you and Alan, or at least getting > > my point of view across that GAE is a good thing to be invested in. > > > > -- > > online documentation: http://openbd.org/manual/ > > google+ hints/tips: https://plus.google.com/115990347459711259462 > > http://groups.google.com/group/openbd?hl=en > > > > Join us @ http://www.OpenCFsummit.org/ Dallas, Feb 2012 > > > > -- > Alex Skinner > Managing Director > Pixl8 Interactive > > Tel: +448452600726 > Email: [email protected] > Web: pixl8.co.uk > > -- > online documentation: http://openbd.org/manual/ > google+ hints/tips: https://plus.google.com/115990347459711259462 > http://groups.google.com/group/openbd?hl=en > > Join us @ http://www.OpenCFsummit.org/ Dallas, Feb 2012 > -- online documentation: http://openbd.org/manual/ google+ hints/tips: https://plus.google.com/115990347459711259462 http://groups.google.com/group/openbd?hl=en Join us @ http://www.OpenCFsummit.org/ Dallas, Feb 2012
