Yes, a more detailed log would be very useful.
It's a hard situation, on the one hand I love OpenBD (Hell, I made a CMS
especially for it, which I'm working on the next version of) but on the
other hand I can't reliably even test the latest version without setting up
a full server (Even if it's just a virtual machine).
I know it's free, and open source, and I don't have any feelings of being
owed anything by the developers, but many of my questions and bugs seem to
go unnoticed or unanswered here, which means projects I can't do, new
versions I can't try, and so on, and since I'm not a Java developer I can't
really do much of anything with the bugs I run into.
I guess one of my main complaints about OpenBD is the lack of
communication, second up is lack of documentation (some tags have no info
at all, and aren't implement like in CF, and some tags have not enough, in
both cases it requires work, in some cases quite a bit, to just get it
working).
OpenBD 2.0.2 Desktop runs perfectly, I don't think I've ever had a single
hickup with it, so I wonder what changed between Desktop versions, it's not
just the engine version, probably Jetty and Java versions too.
On Sunday, December 29, 2013 2:29:10 PM UTC-6, Al Holden wrote:
>
> While you may have hit on something with Windows path name laziness
> (OpenBD desktop does rely on Java libraries after all), I think some of
> your other findings may be coincidental to another cause.
>
> I've had theories like these as well. Unfortunately, I'm always drawn back
> to my most recent experience:
> It worked last night. I closed the app, turned off the PC and went to bed.
> The next day, the app had no history when it started up, and threw the
> ClassNotFoundException. Two days later, I tried a shorter path and they ALL
> started working again. None of them had spaces btw.
>
> But I did NOT change any path names, file names, ANYTHING. Obviously
> though, OpenBD app - or my PC - DID. Unless someone else can set me
> straight, the exception above means that 1) the resource has moved or 2)
> the process is not being allowed to access it. Not a lot of other
> possibilities there.
>
> One theory could be something in an updater or virus protection (I use
> AVG) - that suddenly & silently decides a critical file off-limits for a
> while.
>
> While it's not fair to expect our desktop app heroes to magically fix
> everything PC - it would be nice to get just a little more console insight
> into what steps are being cleared ("file found...", "file not found...",
> "resource in use...") - or not - during startup.
>
> Al
>
>
> On 12/29/2013 10:34 AM, Marcus F wrote:
>
> I've playing with this, and it seems very hit and miss.
>
> Some folders it works just fine, and some folders it just throws tons of
> errors in console, starting with these two lines:
> 2013-12-29 12:29:26.920:WARN:oejw.StandardDescriptorProcessor:Could not
> instantiate listener
> com.naryx.tagfusion.cfm.application.cfHttpSessionListener
> java.lang.ClassNotFoundException:
> com.naryx.tagfusion.cfm.application.cfHttpSessionListener
>
> So right now I have a single folder that seems to run fine with desktop,
> C:\open
> I've tried making other folders in C: to no avail, and subfolders such as
> C:\open\cfwheels fails with the errors as well.
>
> No idea who's been working on the Desktop version, or who can decipher the
> errors and maybe work on fixing them, I certainly can't.
>
> The full downside is that I can't properly test anything above 2.0.2,
> except for this one folder that seems to magically work :/
>
> On Sunday, December 29, 2013 12:03:24 AM UTC-6, Marcus F wrote:
>>
>> Progress!
>>
>> After finally sitting down with 3.0 (And 3.1, nightly) OpenBD Desktop
>> I've made a little progress.
>>
>> It seems that for me, the issue is two-fold.
>>
>> First off: No spaces in the pathname!
>>
>> Second off: Context path needs to be set to / and not \
>>
>> And this seems to have fixed the issue, at least for the moment, I'll be
>> doing some tests to see if it stays "unbroken" this time.
>>
>> I'm running this on Windows 7 x64
>>
>>
>> On Monday, December 23, 2013 4:13:57 PM UTC-6, Marcus F wrote:
>>>
>>> I would love to find out too.
>>> I've not been able to get it working more than sporadically, so I
>>> haven't been able to test out 3.0 properly.
>>>
>>> I *did* set up a VM but that's a pain in the ass for dev'ing
>>>
>>> On Monday, December 23, 2013 3:10:28 PM UTC-6, Al Holden wrote:
>>>>
>>>> And just like that, 2 days later, it starts working again. I ran the
>>>> desktop against a 1-line index.cfm file I had placed in a folder on my own
>>>> desktop, and it launched without the errors. It then launched against my
>>>> other real apps too.
>>>>
>>>> The "ClassNotFoundException" is somewhat telling. Because nothing has
>>>> changed in my Win7 volume, one might assume that (despite my attempts to
>>>> assuage them) there's something applying a process or permissions hold on
>>>> my little OpenBD desktop classpath files. Whatever it was, it seemed to
>>>> survive multiple reboots - as I noted below.
>>>>
>>>> And now the problem is gone, for the time being. It sure would be nice
>>>> to know what could immobilize my development process for days like that.
>>>> Does anyone know of some better analysis tools besides explorer & task
>>>> manager?
>>>>
>>>> Al
>>>>
>>>> On 12/21/2013 11:44 PM, Al Holden wrote:
>>>>
>>>> This thread is old. Back then, my own OpenBD desktop was working fine,
>>>> and Marcus' version was failing as described below.
>>>>
>>>> But now - almost a year later, I sit down to my OpenBD 3.0 desktop and
>>>> the SAME THING happens to me. I was just using this yesterday! First it
>>>> opened up with none of the path or launch options from last night, and
>>>> when
>>>> I pressed Start it threw the same errors that Marcus saw last March. Same
>>>> version 3.0 [3rd March 2013]
>>>>
>>>> I've tried restarting my PC, downloading and unzipping a whole new
>>>> desktop, opening permissions, verifying Java, checking and un-checking all
>>>> the option boxes, and launching with different projects. But unlike my
>>>> friends of last spring, I'm stuck and unable to continue development no
>>>> matter how many times I tweak and restart this thing.
>>>>
>>>> Any advice from the publishers - or hints at any actions beyond those
>>>> listed above - would be helpful.
>>>>
>>>> Al
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, March 31, 2013 4:56:16 PM UTC-7, Marcus F wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I just ran into some odd problems with 3.0 Desktop.
>>>>>
>>>>> I made a folder to start a new project, started 3.0, picked the folder
>>>>> and hit Start, it said the folder is not valid (As expected), I tell it
>>>>> to
>>>>> make it valid, and run into a whole lot of errors in the console.
>>>>>
>>>>> I restarted it, but the same thing happened. I downloaded it again
>>>>> from the website, but the same problem happens again.
>>>>>
>>>>> It works fine with apps I've made before, most of them with OpenBD 2.x
>>>>>
>>>>> I started 2.0.2 and it worked just fine.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here are the errors, maybe someone has run into this before:
>>>>> (After the last line the whole thing locks up)
>>>>>
>>>>> Starting Standard Jetty Server
>>>>> Port: 80; Exts: *.cfm *.cfml ; Folder:
>>>>> Ready to execute
>>>>> 2013-03-31 18:51:57.660:INFO:oejs.Server:jetty-7.6.1.v20120215
>>>>> 2013-03-31 18:51:57.756:INFO:oejw.StandardDescriptorProcessor:NO JSP
>>>>> Support for /, did not find org.apache.jasper.servlet.JspServlet
>>>>> 2013-03-31 18:51:57.775:WARN:oejw.StandardDescriptorProcessor:Could
>>>>> not instantiate listener
>>>>> com.naryx.tagfusion.cfm.application.cfHttpSessionListener
>>>>> java.lang.ClassNotFoundException:
>>>>> com.naryx.tagfusion.cfm.application.cfHttpSessionListener
>>>>> at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(Unknown Source)
>>>>> at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(Unknown Source)
>>>>> at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
>>>>> at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source)
>>>>> at
>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.webapp.WebAppClassLoader.loadClass(WebAppClassLoader.java:415)
>>>>> at
>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.webapp.WebAppClassLoader.loadClass(WebAppClassLoader.java:377)
>>>>> at
>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.server.handler.ContextHandler.loadClass(ContextHandler.java:1437)
>>>>> at
>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.webapp.StandardDescriptorProcessor.visitListener(StandardDescriptorProcessor.java:1367)
>>>>> at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
>>>>> at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
>>>>> at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
>>>>> at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source)
>>>>> at
>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.webapp.IterativeDescriptorProcessor.visit(IterativeDescriptorProcessor.java:80)
>>>>> at
>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.webapp.IterativeDescriptorProcessor.process(IterativeDescriptorProcessor.java:67)
>>>>> at org.eclipse.jetty.webapp.MetaData.resolve(MetaData.java:321)
>>>>> at
>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.webapp.WebAppContext.startContext(WebAppContext.java:1212)
>>>>> at
>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.server.handler.ContextHandler.doStart(ContextHandler.java:676)
>>>>> at
>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.webapp.WebAppContext.doStart(WebAppContext.java:455)
>>>>> at
>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.util.component.AbstractLifeCycle.start(AbstractLifeCycle.java:59)
>>>>> at
>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.server.handler.HandlerWrapper.doStart(HandlerWrapper.java:90)
>>>>> at org.eclipse.jetty.server.Server.doStart(Server.java:261)
>>>>> at
>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.util.component.AbstractLifeCycle.start(AbstractLifeCycle.java:59)
>>>>> at
>>>>> com.bluedragon.desktop.jetty.OpenBDServer.startJettyServer(Unknown Source)
>>>>> at com.bluedragon.desktop.Desktop$2.run(Unknown Source)
>>>>> at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
>>>>> 2013-03-31 18:51:57.784:INFO:oejsh.ContextHandler:started
>>>>> o.e.j.w.WebAppContext{/,file:/C:/OpenBD30/}
>>>>> 2013-03-31 18:51:57.786:WARN:oejs.Holder:
>>>>> java.lang.ClassNotFoundException:
>>>>> com.newatlanta.filters.SearchEngineFriendlyURLFilter
>>>>> at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(Unknown Source)
>>>>> at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(Unknown Source)
>>>>> at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
>>>>> at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source)
>>>>> at
>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.webapp.WebAppClassLoader.loadClass(WebAppClassLoader.java:415)
>>>>> at
>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.webapp.WebAppClassLoader.loadClass(WebAppClassLoader.java:377)
>>>>> at org.eclipse.jetty.util.Loader.loadClass(Loader.java:92)
>>>>> at org.eclipse.jetty.util.Loader.loadClass(Loader.java:71)
>>>>> at org.eclipse.jetty.servlet.Holder.doStart(Holder.java:84)
>>>>> at
>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.servlet.FilterHolder.doStart(FilterHolder.java:74)
>>>>> at
>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.util.component.AbstractLifeCycle.start(AbstractLifeCycle.java:59)
>>>>> at
>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.servlet.ServletHandler.initialize(ServletHandler.java:747)
>>>>> at
>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.servlet.ServletContextHandler.startContext(ServletContextHandler.java:249)
>>>>> at
>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.webapp.WebAppContext.startContext(WebAppContext.java:1214)
>>>>> at
>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.server.handler.ContextHandler.doStart(ContextHandler.java:676)
>>>>> at
>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.webapp.WebAppContext.doStart(WebAppContext.java:455)
>>>>> at
>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.util.component.AbstractLifeCycle.start(AbstractLifeCycle.java:59)
>>>>> at
>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.server.handler.HandlerWrapper.doStart(HandlerWrapper.java:90)
>>>>> at org.eclipse.jetty.server.Server.doStart(Server.java:261)
>>>>> at
>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.util.component.AbstractLifeCycle.start(AbstractLifeCycle.java:59)
>>>>> at
>>>>> com.bluedragon.desktop.jetty.OpenBDServer.startJettyServer(Unknown Source)
>>>>> at com.bluedragon.desktop.Desktop$2.run(Unknown Source)
>>>>> at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
>>>>> 2013-03-31 18:51:57.788:WARN:oejuc.AbstractLifeCycle:FAILED
>>>>> SearchEngineFriendlyURLFilter: javax.servlet.UnavailableException:
>>>>> com.newatlanta.filters.SearchEngineFriendlyURLFilter
>>>>> javax.servlet.UnavailableException:
>>>>> com.newatlanta.filters.SearchEngineFriendlyURLFilter
>>>>> at org.eclipse.jetty.servlet.Holder.doStart(Holder.java:91)
>>>>> at
>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.servlet.FilterHolder.doStart(FilterHolder.java:74)
>>>>> at
>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.util.component.AbstractLifeCycle.start(AbstractLifeCycle.java:59)
>>>>> at
>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.servlet.ServletHandler.initialize(ServletHandler.java:747)
>>>>> at
>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.servlet.ServletContextHandler.startContext(ServletContextHandler.java:249)
>>>>> at
>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.webapp.WebAppContext.startContext(WebAppContext.java:1214)
>>>>> at
>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.server.handler.ContextHandler.doStart(ContextHandler.java:676)
>>>>> at
>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.webapp.WebAppContext.doStart(WebAppContext.java:455)
>>>>> at
>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.util.component.AbstractLifeCycle.start(AbstractLifeCycle.java:59)
>>>>> at
>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.server.handler.HandlerWrapper.doStart(HandlerWrapper.java:90)
>>>>> at org.eclipse.jetty.server.Server.doStart(Server.java:261)
>>>>> at
>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.util.component.AbstractLifeCycle.start(AbstractLifeCycle.java:59)
>>>>> at
>>>>> com.bluedragon.desktop.jetty.OpenBDServer.startJettyServer(Unknown Source)
>>>>> at com.bluedragon.desktop.Desktop$2.run(Unknown Source)
>>>>> at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
>>>>> 2013-03-31 18:51:57.790:WARN:oejw.WebAppContext:Failed startup of
>>>>> context o.e.j.w.WebAppContext{/,file:/C:/OpenBD30/}
>>>>> javax.servlet.UnavailableException:
>>>>> com.newatlanta.filters.SearchEngineFriendlyURLFilter
>>>>> at org.eclipse.jetty.servlet.Holder.doStart(Holder.java:91)
>>>>> at
>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.servlet.FilterHolder.doStart(FilterHolder.java:74)
>>>>> at
>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.util.component.AbstractLifeCycle.start(AbstractLifeCycle.java:59)
>>>>> at
>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.servlet.ServletHandler.initialize(ServletHandler.java:747)
>>>>> at
>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.servlet.ServletContextHandler.startContext(ServletContextHandler.java:249)
>>>>> at
>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.webapp.WebAppContext.startContext(WebAppContext.java:1214)
>>>>> at
>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.server.handler.ContextHandler.doStart(ContextHandler.java:676)
>>>>> at
>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.webapp.WebAppContext.doStart(WebAppContext.java:455)
>>>>> at
>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.util.component.AbstractLifeCycle.start(AbstractLifeCycle.java:59)
>>>>> at
>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.server.handler.HandlerWrapper.doStart(HandlerWrapper.java:90)
>>>>> at org.eclipse.jetty.server.Server.doStart(Server.java:261)
>>>>> at
>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.util.component.AbstractLifeCycle.start(AbstractLifeCycle.java:59)
>>>>> at
>>>>> com.bluedragon.desktop.jetty.OpenBDServer.startJettyServer(Unknown Source)
>>>>> at com.bluedragon.desktop.Desktop$2.run(Unknown Source)
>>>>> at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
>>>>> 2013-03-31 18:51:57.807:INFO:oejs.AbstractConnector:Started
>>>>> [email protected]:80
>>>>> java.lang.ClassNotFoundException:
>>>>> com.naryx.tagfusion.cfm.engine.cfEngine
>>>>>
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