> Michael: Life is a lot of fun when you let it be and a team who includes
> fun as a required component to their work becomes an amazing
> force to be reckoned with. Have you ever tried to stop a
> roomful of kids who are out there having fun? It's near
> impossible. So any leader we chose would have to be interested
> in making this fun, and recognize that most of us are volunteering
> our time here and that we have other commitments to keep.
Adrian: Definitely, fun, interesting, challenging, we need to keep
people interested in the project or we won't have a project left.
> Michael: I do have a secret to confess. I would like to make lots of money
> with this project, I also plan on changing the face of programming
> as I know it and aiding in creating a whole new business
> model for software development. So it would really be a
> bummer for me to find out that this projects leadership isn't
> interested in making some waves in the software
> development world.
Adrian: These sound like very ambitious, worthwhile and achievable
goals. There is plenty of money to be made from this project, it's
just not from selling the product, it's from using the product to
make other products and as a result of the contacts and fame you
get from being a part of the project. OpenSource is changing the
face of computing and we are supporting that, we're also supporting
xTalk which changed the face of computing in the past and we're
returning it to it's rightful pricerange, free! :)
> Michael: I guess the last quality in the leadership I would want to see
> would be a resistance to creating something from scratch.
> The power of OpenSource software is its commitment to
> opening up the source to be leveraged by other developers
> and projects. It's almost a shame when we reinvent the wheel
> because we weren't willing to steal from someone else first.
Adrian: Obviously we should use resources that are available to
use, but improve or adapt them as nessecary. Some parts will
need to be made from scratch though.
> Michael: Python, Perl, Dylan, wxWindows, TOM, GTK, Java (kinda),
> all have excellent stuff for us to steal. I have my blue sky for
> this project, and it won't necassarily be the same for you, but
> the beauty of my experience with open source so far is that
> usually the best person for the job is a pretty clear choice,
> and in general people who know the problem well enough to
> talk about the solution, are more interested in a good
> solution then they are their egos.
Adrian: I certainly agree.
> Michael: Would it be safe to say that each of us wants a product
> that we can be proud of, is cross platform, and fits nicely
> into our current lifestyle?
Adrian: That's the general impression I get.
> Michael: I don't think that any one here wouldn't be interested in
> some form of compensation for their work.
Adrian: Very true, I think most people in the group have seen the
long term benefits we gain are far greater than the short term ones
we give up by going OpenSource.
> Michael: I can definately see the fear of one person dominating
> the conversation, and not listening to others on the list,
> but let's not create problems for ourselves. Does this
> group have a track record of not listening to each other?
> If not, I wouldn't worry about it until it became a problem.
Adrian: I don't think we've ever had a problem with not listening
before. We've had a couple of disagreements that we're sorted out
quite without fuss and almost automatically.
> Michael: Anyway, thanks for the ear. I somehow think I just got
> myself into some sort of leadership position on the group.
> Or I stuck my foot in the mouth and spoke up too early.
> I was going to try and just get ahold of the source code
> and watch the list for a while before I jumped in on any
> conversations, but the opportunity to say something
> was just to good to pass up. Sorry if I stepped on
> anyone, or repeat stuff that has already been said.
Adrian: I'm glad you spoke up, your input is greatly appreciated. I
get the impression already that I'm going to enjoy and appreciate
working with you. Welcome, to OpenCard!
