>Of course people did not work to the best of their ability. The harder you
>worked, the more you are robbed -- in theoretical communism. The less you
>work, the greater the percentage of what you earn that you keep. THat is,
>the less you are robbed. The only _logical_ conclusion one cna come to is
>to be a lazy bum, unless one has managed to convince onself that slavery
>and serfdom to the state is right. Which it's not, and never will be.
Anthony,
this is the only logical conclusion for a capitalist because capitalism
means acquiring more and more for less and less. Communism doesn't care
about that, it wants to have everybody live equally good. That this turned
out to mean "everybody lives equally bad" was a flaw in execution.
I think if you're really interested in continuing this discussion, we
should do this off-list so we don't annoy people interested in OC, and you
might want to recapture the differences between Marxism and Leninism.
>What happened to the soviet union is the only thing that can happen when
>one tries to implement Marx's concepts: Starvation. Death. Destruction.
>Downfall.
Nice to see the McCarthy's words didn't fall on deaf ears.
>Marx takes resources from the able, the people who do innovate, and gives
>it to the unable (or unwilling) who sit around and do nothing. Marx would
>have Einstein invent relativity without paper, Eddison, the lightbulb,
>phonograph, etc., without a lab, and Ford build a car without a factory.
>After all, it is not "fair" if those people get those things and others
>don't!
Why is it unfair to help the unable? If you were not able to care for
yourself, wouldn't you want someone to care for you? The unwilling are the
thing that Marx didn't account for (which was his biggest fault), but
besides that he understood the "things that be" pretty well.
> Altruism is bad. Altruism is evil. Altruism is the end of
> civilization. Altruism is starvation. Altruism is the philosophy
> of death.
You're repeating yourself. This is basically the same as you said on
implementing Marx' concepts a while earlier.
Cheers,
-- M. Uli Kusterer
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