At 11:13 AM +1000 on 7/26/99, Adrian Sutton wrote:

>
>Adrian:  We're not breaking apart, we're displaying some of the warning
>signs of a group that's about to break apart.  Strong debates over a very
>central idea where the decision affects people's participation.  I think we
>can sort out this debate but there will be others and we need to learn from
>this so we can deal with the next problem easier.

How would we deal with it, other than debate? We could have a leader say
"that's it, damn you!" But I bet that'd lead to a fork _real quick_

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>> Adrian: ... ie The official version of OpenCard is distributed under
>> this licence, like it or lump it.  If you don't like it, don't
>> contribute.
>>
>> Alain: Exactly!
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>Adrian:  Now we just need to decide which licence to choice and we're making
>progress on that.

Perl? BSD? Write our own? (Scott, would you help with that?)


>Adrian:  You are certainly not to blame for our lack of a "constitution".
>We're just not setting down specific rules so we can't put them on the web.
>We need to prepare a draft constitution for debate I think.  If there's a
>volunteer then I'd appreciate them taking it on, otherwise I'll provide a
>skeleton draft as I don't have the knowledge or experience to come up with a
>decent draft.

I wrote a constituion proposal long ago for the UFP. Should I go pull it
out of the archive?


>> Adrian: ... this includes one character patches.
>>
>> Alain: I would not go this far!
>
>Adrian:  If someone releases a patch that we use under one licence we need
>to get their permission to change the licence it is released under,
>regardless of the size of the patch.

Unless they give us permission to do so when submitting. But I don't think
we should change the licence.

Maybe something VERY liberal, along the lines of the BSD licence? You can
do as you please, just give us credit?

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>> Adrian: Perhaps we should look at how other cooperative organisations
>> work, I think you'll find all the successful ones have certain rules.
>>
>> Alain: Good suggestion.
>
>Adrian:  Perhaps we should start with the Linux group as they seem to be
>doing pretty well.  Any others we should look at?

Tons of them. Perl, egcs, etc. Maybe the FSF has some pointers?


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