On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 11:33 PM, Jan Matusiewicz <[email protected] > wrote:
> People could have a long discussion about the possible outcome. I wonder > how would NARS, OpenCog or CYC respond if given such a riddle with 10 nice > and a cat. Can anyone predict/easily check it? > There are multiple differences between these systems. * CYC uses crisp boolean logic, and facts are entered by humans into its knowledge-base. * NARS uses a certain kind of fuzzy, imprecise logic, combining float pt values using certain specific formulas. I'm not sure how they build their knowledge base -- but I believe that facts are extracted by reading text. * OpenCog uses a probabilistic logic, combining float pt values using certain specific formulas. However, I designed the system so that it should be "easy" to play with different kinds of formulas -- i.e. you could implement the NARS formulas in the opencog framework, and this should be fairly easy to do. Ben dislikes the NARS formulas, and perhaps he's right that the PLN formulas are better. I don't care, because the software allows these formulas to be tweaked, and they will be, in the upcoming years. OpenCog builds its knowledge base by reading text, i.e. "by learning", although its ability to do so is still very primitive and crude and broken-ish. CYC probably "knows" a lot about cats, because in the last 30 years, a bunch of humans have probably coded a lot of knowledge about cats into the CYC knowledge-base. I doubt it can solve the box+cats+mice problem, though. NARS -- no idea how much it knows about cats. OpenCog -- we do not have any publicly available knowledgebase for OpenCog. We've build a few, over the years, and there's probably something about cats in some of them, maybe. We haven't focused on accumulating a knowledgebase, because we haven't had the infrastructure to do much with one. I hope this will change "real soon now".... --linas > > On Tue, 23 Aug 2016 05:01 Ed Pell, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> I like Pei Wang's NARS approach it allows many outcomes with varying >> probabilities. As a human reasoning about the cat and mice I think most >> likely cat eats one or more mice. Second most likely cat jumps out of box >> it was thrown in. Third cat attacks mice chaos ensues, the box is tipped >> over the mice flee the cat has a ball and may or may not eat one mouse. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >> Google Groups "opencog" group. >> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/ >> topic/opencog/y--WRlIxf3s/unsubscribe. >> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >> [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/opencog. >> To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/ >> msgid/opencog/1c51dff8-00bd-4a2a-8df8-3cf0642ef24f%40googlegroups.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/opencog/1c51dff8-00bd-4a2a-8df8-3cf0642ef24f%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "opencog" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/opencog. > To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/ > msgid/opencog/CA%2B2nBRsH%2B_4KtxHGzvoUBaaqYFA9JstkUyh_ > trZZ-iHdf-Z5BA%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/opencog/CA%2B2nBRsH%2B_4KtxHGzvoUBaaqYFA9JstkUyh_trZZ-iHdf-Z5BA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "opencog" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/opencog. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/opencog/CAHrUA36hYR3yLSbFigxN3W4koMq8FZn%2B0PJJisht95MYGYGe2Q%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
