Ahh — I was thinking that the default setting for K would be one but that this would change for specific contexts.
> On Sep 12, 2016, at 10:59 AM, Ben Goertzel <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Rather than introduce a new third method, it seems to me that we could >> simply replace the spreading of importance from everything in the AF with >> the spreading of importance K links out, where the value of K might be >> determined from context. > > > I just worry that would result in the internal AF STI-spreading > happening too slowly, thus screwing up attractor-formation dynamics > inside the AF ... > > After all, spreading 3 links out from X may take 100x or 1000x or 10Kx > more effort than spreading only from X, right? > > > >> The “third method” really just seems to me to be a generalized version of AF >> spreading rather than a new method. As Roman points out, the actual >> mechanics of how to spread K links out also needs to be determined. >> >> —matt >> >>> On Sep 12, 2016, at 10:01 AM, Ben Goertzel <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> A somewhat interesting point came up in discussions w/ Misgana re ECAN >>> today... >>> >>> So far we have been working on two methods of attention allocation: >>> >>> -- spreading importance from everything in the AttentionalFocus, frequently >>> >>> -- spreading importance from everything in the Atomspace, but more >>> slowly (by sampling Atoms from the Atomspace with probability >>> proportional to STI, and then spreading from each Atom as it's >>> sampled) >>> >>> But we have seen a need now for a third method >>> >>> -- iterating through every X in the AttentionalFocus, and spreading >>> importance K links out from X (where, say, K=2 or 3) >>> >>> The practical use-case that made this requirement clear was: rapidly >>> boosting the importance of question-answers, that contain words which >>> are in the AF.... The question-answers are ImplicationLinks, which >>> point to ListLinks, which point to words ... so to get STI to the >>> ImplicationLink, a word in the AF needs to send STI to the ListLink >>> which then needs to send STI to the ImplicationLink... >>> >>> But more generally one can view this as an importance-spreading agent >>> aimed at spreading activity from the AttentionalFocus to the "Fringe" >>> of consciousness -- those things that one can feel at the back of >>> one's mind, on the edge of one's consciousness ... one is aware they >>> are there but not quite aware of what they are, but one can generally >>> with effort pull them into one's awareness... >>> >>> Sometimes spreading enough STI into the Fringe will cause something in >>> the Fringe to get boosted into the AttentionalFocus .... >>> >>> -- Ben >>> >>> -- >>> Ben Goertzel, PhD >>> http://goertzel.org >>> >>> Super-benevolent super-intelligence is the thought the Global Brain is >>> currently struggling to form... >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "opencog" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/opencog. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/opencog/CACYTDBdGNipWfnguuZY%2ByyGtnCxAKoXfqoTiYMSsGcqj0rQ5Mw%40mail.gmail.com. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "opencog" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/opencog >> <https://groups.google.com/group/opencog>. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/opencog/1F463D95-D0D5-4B95-9D4D-092C0EEFDDFC%40gmail.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/opencog/1F463D95-D0D5-4B95-9D4D-092C0EEFDDFC%40gmail.com>. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout >> <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. > > > > -- > Ben Goertzel, PhD > http://goertzel.org <http://goertzel.org/> > > Super-benevolent super-intelligence is the thought the Global Brain is > currently struggling to form... > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "opencog" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/opencog > <https://groups.google.com/group/opencog>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/opencog/CACYTDBepQVSPMh__wu%2BR2yUjQmCT6ofUr0enxcJttGM0Xbamzg%40mail.gmail.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/opencog/CACYTDBepQVSPMh__wu%2BR2yUjQmCT6ofUr0enxcJttGM0Xbamzg%40mail.gmail.com>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout > <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "opencog" group. 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