On Wed, 8 Nov 2017 09:20:30 +0200
Nil Geisweiller <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> On 11/07/2017 02:26 PM, Charlie Derr wrote:
> > Hey Mike!
> >     Thanks much for the advice, I suspected that's what I wanted to
> > do. I cloned the cogutil repo and then created a build directory
> > inside and then executed "cmake .." then "make" then "sudo make
> > install". After clearing away CMakeCache.txt I got a similar error
> > with regard to atomspace, so I'm building/installing that now.
> > 
> >     It might make sense to update the wiki with these details.  
> 
> Sure! I didn't fully understand what should be updated. Could you do
> it? Do you have the permissions to edit the wiki page? If not, or if
> you don't have time, could you explain what should be updated?
> 
> Thanks,
> Nil
> 

I did just create an account so as to be able to edit the wiki, but I'm
reluctant to do that for a couple reasons. The first is that I'm brand
new to opencog and so have very little experience with it and wouldn't
want to introduce an error due to my newbie status. The second is that
I'm not sure exactly what the correct solution should be (in terms of
what the wiki ought to say). Let me try to explain.

https://wiki.opencog.org/w/Building_OpenCog_(Hands_On) is the wiki page
I was using to try to get started, and as I had an ubuntu 16.04 VM
available, I was using the instructions from:
3. Installing dependencies on Ubuntu

The command to install octool16 worked great, but when I ran:

./octool16 -rsdpcalv

I (eventually) got the build error about no CogUtil. I have no idea how
octool works, but I think ideally, that above command ought to be
tweaked/edited to check out, build and install from the cogutil and
atomspace git repos prior to attempting to build opencog itself. Which
may be more than a wiki edit.

After seeing your message this morning and looking more closely at the
wiki, I noticed that I still had this other tab open:
https://wiki.opencog.org/w/Installing_OpenCog_for_Noobs#First_Steps_for_.2A.2Aexpert.2A.2A_users:_those_familiar_with_git.2C_Github.2C_and_Linux

As it only referenced an earlier version of ubuntu (versions > 14) I
hadn't looked closely at it.  But I now see that under the "New
Instructions" section, that the correct procedure is outlined (manually
though, not using octool).

I hope this helps. And I'm willing to provide more feedback if
necessary. Just ask.

      best,
          ~c

> > 
> >          thanks again,
> >            ~c
> > 
> > 
> > On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 6:21:50 AM UTC-5, Michael Duncan
> > wrote:
> > 
> >     hi, fellow sr soccer alumnus!  the cogutil binary is built from
> > a seperate github repo so make sure it's getting installed and check
> >     where it's getting installed (on my ubuntu 16.04 it's in
> >     /usr/local/lib/cogutil.so).  also a bunch of code just got
> > changed from "cogutils" to "cogutil" for consistency. try looking
> > for "cogutil.h", at this point i think "cogutils.h" would be
> > incorrect.
> > 
> >     mike "sweeper" duncan
> > 
> >     On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 6:50:12 PM UTC+8, Charlie Derr
> > wrote:
> > 
> >         I've tried to follow the instructions here (using an ubuntu
> >         16.04 VM and octool16) and I get:
> > 
> >         CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:144 (MESSAGE):
> >           CogUtil missing: it is needed for everything!
> > 
> > 
> >         -- Configuring incomplete, errors occurred!
> >         See also
> > "/home/ni/opencog/build/CMakeFiles/CMakeOutput.log". See also
> > "/home/ni/opencog/build/CMakeFiles/CMakeError.log".
> > 
> >         I've googled this error, but don't see any current results.
> > I've searched for cogutils.h and it is not present on my system
> >         anywhere. Please advise.
> > 
> >            thanks so very much in advance,
> >                 ~c
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >         On Saturday, October 21, 2017 at 6:00:14 AM UTC-4, Nil
> > wrote:
> > 
> >             Hi Selva,
> > 
> >             this is typically a good place to start
> > 
> >             http://wiki.opencog.org/w/Hands_On_With_OpenCog
> >             <http://wiki.opencog.org/w/Hands_On_With_OpenCog>
> > 
> >             it seems down though at the moment.
> > 
> >             Nil
> > 
> >             On 10/20/2017 01:36 PM, Vanangamudi wrote:  
> >              > Hi,
> >              >
> >              > how do I get started with solving toy problems with  
> >             opencog to head  
> >              > grasp of where things are?
> >              >
> >              >
> >              > Thanks,
> >              >
> >              > Selva.
> >              >  
> > 
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