Hello Charlie and welcome!

Been a long time!

The wiki instructions seem correct to me. This may be a bug in octool, that
command line should have downloaded, built and installed cogutil and
atomspace.

Cheers,
Cassio

On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 12:00 PM, charlie derr <[email protected]>
wrote:

> On Wed, 8 Nov 2017 09:20:30 +0200
> Nil Geisweiller <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > On 11/07/2017 02:26 PM, Charlie Derr wrote:
> > > Hey Mike!
> > >     Thanks much for the advice, I suspected that's what I wanted to
> > > do. I cloned the cogutil repo and then created a build directory
> > > inside and then executed "cmake .." then "make" then "sudo make
> > > install". After clearing away CMakeCache.txt I got a similar error
> > > with regard to atomspace, so I'm building/installing that now.
> > >
> > >     It might make sense to update the wiki with these details.
> >
> > Sure! I didn't fully understand what should be updated. Could you do
> > it? Do you have the permissions to edit the wiki page? If not, or if
> > you don't have time, could you explain what should be updated?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Nil
> >
>
> I did just create an account so as to be able to edit the wiki, but I'm
> reluctant to do that for a couple reasons. The first is that I'm brand
> new to opencog and so have very little experience with it and wouldn't
> want to introduce an error due to my newbie status. The second is that
> I'm not sure exactly what the correct solution should be (in terms of
> what the wiki ought to say). Let me try to explain.
>
> https://wiki.opencog.org/w/Building_OpenCog_(Hands_On) is the wiki page
> I was using to try to get started, and as I had an ubuntu 16.04 VM
> available, I was using the instructions from:
> 3. Installing dependencies on Ubuntu
>
> The command to install octool16 worked great, but when I ran:
>
> ./octool16 -rsdpcalv
>
> I (eventually) got the build error about no CogUtil. I have no idea how
> octool works, but I think ideally, that above command ought to be
> tweaked/edited to check out, build and install from the cogutil and
> atomspace git repos prior to attempting to build opencog itself. Which
> may be more than a wiki edit.
>
> After seeing your message this morning and looking more closely at the
> wiki, I noticed that I still had this other tab open:
> https://wiki.opencog.org/w/Installing_OpenCog_for_Noobs#
> First_Steps_for_.2A.2Aexpert.2A.2A_users:_those_familiar_
> with_git.2C_Github.2C_and_Linux
>
> As it only referenced an earlier version of ubuntu (versions > 14) I
> hadn't looked closely at it.  But I now see that under the "New
> Instructions" section, that the correct procedure is outlined (manually
> though, not using octool).
>
> I hope this helps. And I'm willing to provide more feedback if
> necessary. Just ask.
>
>       best,
>           ~c
>
> > >
> > >          thanks again,
> > >            ~c
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 6:21:50 AM UTC-5, Michael Duncan
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >     hi, fellow sr soccer alumnus!  the cogutil binary is built from
> > > a seperate github repo so make sure it's getting installed and check
> > >     where it's getting installed (on my ubuntu 16.04 it's in
> > >     /usr/local/lib/cogutil.so).  also a bunch of code just got
> > > changed from "cogutils" to "cogutil" for consistency. try looking
> > > for "cogutil.h", at this point i think "cogutils.h" would be
> > > incorrect.
> > >
> > >     mike "sweeper" duncan
> > >
> > >     On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 6:50:12 PM UTC+8, Charlie Derr
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >         I've tried to follow the instructions here (using an ubuntu
> > >         16.04 VM and octool16) and I get:
> > >
> > >         CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:144 (MESSAGE):
> > >           CogUtil missing: it is needed for everything!
> > >
> > >
> > >         -- Configuring incomplete, errors occurred!
> > >         See also
> > > "/home/ni/opencog/build/CMakeFiles/CMakeOutput.log". See also
> > > "/home/ni/opencog/build/CMakeFiles/CMakeError.log".
> > >
> > >         I've googled this error, but don't see any current results.
> > > I've searched for cogutils.h and it is not present on my system
> > >         anywhere. Please advise.
> > >
> > >            thanks so very much in advance,
> > >                 ~c
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >         On Saturday, October 21, 2017 at 6:00:14 AM UTC-4, Nil
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >             Hi Selva,
> > >
> > >             this is typically a good place to start
> > >
> > >             http://wiki.opencog.org/w/Hands_On_With_OpenCog
> > >             <http://wiki.opencog.org/w/Hands_On_With_OpenCog>
> > >
> > >             it seems down though at the moment.
> > >
> > >             Nil
> > >
> > >             On 10/20/2017 01:36 PM, Vanangamudi wrote:
> > >              > Hi,
> > >              >
> > >              > how do I get started with solving toy problems with
> > >             opencog to head
> > >              > grasp of where things are?
> > >              >
> > >              >
> > >              > Thanks,
> > >              >
> > >              > Selva.
> > >              >
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