On 2/3/22 04:15, Linas Vepstas wrote:
* The Unified Rule Engine (URE) is mature, but has only been used in one project: PLN. It was supposed to provide a generic way of running rules, but no one aside from PLN ever used it for that.  (one of half-a-dozen examples from a long time ago was to put the NARS rules on top of URE)

The pattern miner https://github.com/opencog/miner and a (very experimental) implementation of the AS-MOSES reduct engine https://github.com/opencog/asmoses also use the URE.

* PLN is a specific collection of rules. Some of these are fully worked out and mature; some are experimental, some are in active development. Nil can say more.

On point.

I've one comment about time and temporal theory, and I suspect you'll hate it. I strongly believe that an AGI system must learn about time, (and how to reason about events in time) instead of having it hard-coded into it. Likewise, it must learn "common sense", and only after that, can it learn about rationality and reasoning. Thus, I spend all my effort on learning; I expect it to (eventually) learn common sense and how to reason about time.  This is why I (personally) don't work on any explicit theories of time.

It's probably true in theory, though in practice it helps to have readily available temporal representations/rules/procedures.

Nil


This differs from older (dare I say "conventional"?) architectures, where all this stuff (space, time, reasoning, logic) is hard-coded in at a base layer.

-- Linas



On Wed, Feb 2, 2022 at 3:50 PM Mike Archbold <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    I'm doing some research for the group I organize, the Northwest AGI
    Forum. I'm trying to get a feel for how advanced time theory is in
    architectures. Time obviously is important.

    I'm familiar with OpenCog in general terms, and over a the years I
    have studied it, although I don't know the details.  I was browsing
    through the wiki. I see references to modal logic, PLN, the
    atomspace, etc.  It's hard to tell though what is speculative
    theory, what is implemented, what is planned, long term envisioning
    etc. I know Ben et al has done a lot of work.

    So I was wondering if someone could please give a bit of an overview
    as far as the general state of time representation in OpenCog, or
    perhaps point me to the relevant literature.

    I really appreciate any help! I want to summarize time theory in
    OpenCog, NARS, and SOAR.

    Thanks Mike Archbold



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