شكرا لاحمد مكاوي على البريد والرابط والمرفق الذي اسعدني الحظ برؤيته لاول مرة برغم اني كنت من مؤسسي المجموعة واعتقد بصراحة ان الموضوع لا يمكن الوصول فيه برد من خلال البريد الاليكتروني وادعو لاجتماع لمناقشة الامر واصدار رد مكتوب. وارفض دعوة م. احمد حسين السابقة التي لم تشمل مستندات بها كما فعل مهندس احمد مكاوي وبالتالي كان سيكون الاجتماع غير مجدي .
On Mar 17, 2014, at 10:13 AM, Ahmed Mekkawy <[email protected]> wrote: > Tarek, > > Before I reply to your points, I want to clarify that this strategy was made > by the help of OpenEgypt. Few of the founders were members in the committee > who made this strategy. And we'll be involved in the execution as well. > Whenever you see the community is mentioned, you can think of OpenEgypt. > > IMHO, the press release is pretty poor. I encourage you to read the strategy > itself, which is downloadable from the same page of the press release, or > here's the link: > http://www.mcit.gov.eg/Upcont/Documents/FOSS_Strategy_EN_2014.pdf > > Let me reply to your points inline: > > On Monday 17 March 2014 01:24:02 Tarek Amr wrote: >> I will go through the bits and pieces that grabbed my attention in the >> press release and add my comments underneath them >> >> "The Ministry of Communications and Information Technology (MCIT) showcased >> the FOSS strategy main features during Cairo ICT" >> I can see here that in addition to the general interest in the ministry >> now, there supposed to be members who are aware of the topic enough to >> draft a strategy and present it in the ICT. >> Can we get the names of those who presented the strategy in the ICT? I will >> try to dig in the Strategy document for more names? Those can be our key >> contacts for now. > > The CairoICT event was announced on this mailing list before it happened. > Anyway the presenter was Dr.Noha Adly (first deputy to the minister). The > presentation she made was about the highlights of the strategy. The slides > were available yesterday on the ministry website, but it's removed for some > reason. Anyway it's attached to this email. > >> >> "The Center has already started to design and implement FOSS training >> programs in the field of cloud computing and mobile applications in >> cooperation with the Technology Innovation and Entrepreneurship Center >> (TIEC)". >> Do We have something to offer here? Can OpenEgypt offer trainings to them? >> What topics should we focus on? What is the gap we need to cover here? >> Remember the the likes of IBM and Cisco will probably jump in wearing their >> FOSS hats to offer something here. > > OpenEgypt will be represented in SECC council which will supervise and > coordinate the execution of this strategy. This doesn't mean that we can > actually control everything, but at least we'll see and interact with what's > happening. Of course everyone will wear the FOSS hats, Microsoft already did. > let's see what we can do. > >> >> Now let me have a quick look at the Strategy Document. >> >> "2.2 Improve Efficiency and Transparency of the Public Sector" >> This can serve as a gate to Open Source Software as well as Open Government >> Data. For example, CKAN is a FOSS software that is used by government to >> release their public data. We need to present that to them. >> >> Section 5, "High-LevelAction Plan", is a good summary for what are their >> plans. Thus, let me list the following points/opportunities. >> >> >> - They need to train governmental entities and the public as well. >> Accordingly, they will be looking for training partners. Open Egypt can >> work here as a consultant, or to offer trainings. I am eager to know your >> feedback about this. > > I guess OpenEgypt can do the consultancy part, but offering training on > proffessional basis is something I didn't consider. If someone want to work > on > this point, he's most welcomed. > >> - They will on one hand advocate FOSS to SME's, but on the other hand >> the government will also act as purchaser of FOSS. Can we prepare a list >> of companies working in developing and customizing FOSS in Egypt? > > We worked on this for more than one time, we got some list on our wiki, but I > can't say that it's the most complete one. > >> - We also need to have a list of key persons in the ministry and their >> roles within this strategy. > > I will be attending the first meeting for the execution isA, and will > communicate as much as I can isA. > >> - They said they will revise current ICT policies and related law >> articles relevant to FOSS adoption. What can be our input here? > > Our input here is really big. They won't be willing to change laws unless we > fight for it. On the other hand we will need professional legal help to point > out which laws need to be changed, and propose the required changes. We will > have access to legal departments in the ministry, but I highly prefer we got > our own. >> >> >> Finally, I can see that Open Egypt can act here as either consultant or >> service provider, however I personally prefer the former role more. We need >> to discuss that, bit, I think being a consultant or catalyst will make it >> easier to decentralize the work and not compete with existing SME's >> offering FOSS development and customization services. > > Agreed, we need to stimulate the private sector more than competing with it. > >> >> On 16 March 2014 23:23, Ahmed Koraiem <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Oh you meant the FOSS Strategy, that's well. >>> >>> On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 11:17 PM, Ahmed Koraiem > <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> Is that the 3rd consecutive strategy in 3 consecutive years? These guys >>>> are doing a marvelous job :/ >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 9:14 PM, Ahmed Mekkawy < >>>> >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> Hello everybody >>>>> >>>>> The MCIT strategy was announced today. I would like everybody here to >>>>> read it and give us feedback, as the community must have a say in this >>>>> issue. >>>>> >>>>> English: >>>>> http://www.mcit.gov.eg/Media_Center/Press_Room/Press_Releases/2967 >>>>> >>>>> Arabic: >>>>> http://www.mcit.gov.eg/Ar/Media_Center/Press_Room/Press_Releases/2967 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Please note that the press release is worse than the strategy itself, >>>>> but both are important. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> ---- >>>>> Ahmed Mekkawy >>>>> CTO | Founder >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> Spirula Systems >>>>> www.SpirulaSystems.com >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "OpenEgypt" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "OpenEgypt" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > Ahmed Mekkawy > CTO | Founder > [email protected] > [email protected] > > Spirula Systems > www.SpirulaSystems.com > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "OpenEgypt" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > <FOSS_En_Cairo_ICT_2013.pptx> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "OpenEgypt" group. 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