Tim Churches wrote:

>On Sun, 2004-10-03 at 04:56, Thomas Beale wrote:
>  
>
>>Dear all,
>>
>>The latest versions of these two tools are available at 
>>http://www.OceanInformatics.biz. The code is open source, and a binary 
>>of the workbench is on the openEHR website, but until we make the site a 
>>bit friendlier for downloads, the packages at OceanInformatics.biz will 
>>be easier to use.
>>    
>>
>...
>  
>
>>Both the ADL workbench and the Clinical Editor were demonstrated a 
>>number of times at the HL7 Atlanta meeting just finished (26sep - 1oct), 
>>and were well received. Clinical users are starting to see how their way 
>>of seeing things can be directly encoded into formal domain models - the 
>>archetypes.
>>    
>>
>
>Thomas,
>
>I am still a bit unclear as to whether there are plans to build an open
>source Archetypes/openEHR storage and retrieval server.
>
there is. It will be done at UCL, and prelim work is underway. I will be 
spending a large amount of my time at UCL for the next 12+ months. We 
expect a first version in mid 2005 - complete archetype and template 
enabled openEHR-based data processor component; it will be deployed in 
initially (probably) a J2EE environment.

> Personally I
>don't think Archetypes and openEHR will gain widespread acceptance (as
>opposed to theoretical interest) until there is some readily available
>means of directly using Archetype definitions to manage data. I am aware
>of the Ethidium proprietary implementation, and also of the DSTC work
>being done for the HealthConnect pilots - but there is no indication of
>an open source implementation that I can see. There is a menu item of
>"EHR Server" on the openEHR web site under projects, buut the link does
>not go anywhere.
>  
>
not today;-)

>Note that I am not complaining that the openEHR Foundation or Ocean
>Informatics has not yet produced an open source Archetypes server - it
>may not be part of your business plan to do so - I am merely asking
>(again - I know I have asked this same question several times
>previously) whether there are in fact concrete plans to create an open
>source server, and if so, what is the timetable. We would love to use
>Archetypes to manage various types of public health data - they would
>solve many of the data management difficulties we are running into now -
>but we do not have the resources or expertise to be able to create an
>Archetypes storage engine ourselves.
>  
>
well, as I say, v1 of the server by mid next year, probably earlier for 
initial versions of the kernel component. It's taking a long time, but 
without more resources, things go at this speed. Sad to say, vast 
amounts of money are continually spent on dead-end things around our ears!

- thomas


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