Thomas, Will you bring this topic up in Berlin?
Gerard -- -- Gerard Freriks, MD Convenor CEN/TC251 WG1 TNO Quality of Life Wassenaarseweg 56 Leiden PostBox 2215 22301CE Leiden The Netherlands +31 71 5181388 +31 654 792800 On 27 Apr 2005, at 13:48, Bert Verhees wrote: > Op woensdag 27 april 2005 11:21, schreef Thomas Beale: >> Bert Verhees wrote: >>>> presented as belonging together, >>> >>> it is not that simple, a collection of information can have more >>> then one >>> number, and the CEN-standard does not provide meta-information in >>> some >>> cases, f.e. PatientExtendedInformation carries a Set<II>, which is a >>> set >>> of numbers (identifiers), those numbers in a list do not have >>> meta-information, except for the OID, but that meta-information can >>> only >>> be resolved over a network-service (which does not yet exist). >> >> as I have indicated before, I think that CEN needs the data type we >> added to openEHR - DV_INDENTIFIER, whose definition is below. I also > > It would help me a lot if CEN would take this instead of the original > ID, this > one has all what is suitable for my purpose > > Bert > >> don't agree that it is realistic to identify everything with OIDs. >> There >> are three reasons, the major one Bert has already given. >> >> 1. non-accessibility and/or performance of resolving engine >> 2. size of ids inside data, particularly data fragments that can never >> be sensibly accessed globally, only from within the context of some >> larger blob. E.g. it doesn't make sense to access a single ELEMENT in >> a >> CEN CLUSTER/ELEMENT tree, so why attach a 20 digit Oid to it? >> >> >> class DV_IDENTIFIER >> inherit >> DATA_VALUE >> >> feature -- Access >> >> issuer: STRING >> -- Issuing agency of these kind of ids >> >> id: STRING >> -- The identifier value. Often structured, according to >> the >> -- definition of the issuing authority?s rules. >> >> type: STRING >> -- The identifier type, such as ?prescription?, or ?SSN?. >> -- One day a controlled vocabulary might be possible for >> this. >> >> invariant >> issuer_valid: issuer /= Void and not issuer.is_empty >> id_valid: id /= Void and not id.is_empty >> type_valid: type /= Void and not type.is_empty >> >> end >> >> >> - thomas beale >> >> >> - >> If you have any questions about using this list, >> please send a message to d.lloyd at openehr.org > > -- > Met vriendelijke groet > Bert Verhees > ROSA Software > > - > If you have any questions about using this list, > please send a message to d.lloyd at openehr.org > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 2630 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/private/openehr-technical_lists.openehr.org/attachments/20050428/b29ecbf6/attachment.bin>

