Thilo,

I think you're right, this actually really doesn't make sense, my current
approach somehow mixes information with knowledge.
Which is kind of the opposite of the two-level modelling and the whole
archetype architecture.

Actually my project is to check if the "domain model" can be transformed
into a archetype.

I guess I'm still having problems understanding openehr.

Timmy


On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 9:09 AM, Thilo Schuler <thilo.schuler at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Timmy,
>
> I think this speech recognition stuff is more an interface thing and
> IMHO it doesn't belong into an archetype (if you see an archetype as a
> means to share interoperable health information).  You could have a
> seperate XML file that tags every appropriate field to a
> 'spokendefault' value(what would be the format? - sound file, phonetic
> spelling,...) via the atXXXX code.
>
> Lets see what others think
>
> -Thilo
>
> On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 4:16 PM, Timmy K <timmyx at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Sorry for being that unspecific.. The project i am working on is about
> >  speech recognition. A Software which allows med. experts to fill out a
> >  Form with speech only, so currently the xml File with the Domain Model
> >  generates a Form with Checkboxes, date Fields and so on and it
> >  includes also a spokendefault value which tells the speech recognition
> >  how this Element Name Sounds like. In the End the generated Form can
> >  be controled or navigated with speech.
> >
> >  I would say it has to be computable.
> >
> >  Thanks,
> >  Timmy
> >
> >  Am 05.05.2008 um 15:11 schrieb "Ian McNicoll" <ian at mcmi.co.uk>:
> >
> >
> >
> >  > Thanks Timmy,
> >  >
> >  > I am still struggling to understand the purpose of the
> >  > 'pronounciation' attribute. Does this have to be computable or is it
> >  > just for designer/user guidance? Can you give  little more background
> >  > to your project?
> >  >
> >  > Ian
> >  >
> >  > On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 10:53 AM, Timmy K <timmyx at gmail.com> wrote:
> >  >> Hi,
> >  >>
> >  >> sure, it consist of a parent node and several child nodes, which
> >  >> describes
> >  >> the appearance of a patient.
> >  >>
> >  >> structured by
> >  >> -common information
> >  >> weight
> >  >> birthdate
> >  >> height
> >  >> -face
> >  >> --eyes
> >  >> color
> >  >> --mouth
> >  >> --nose
> >  >>
> >  >> and so on
> >  >> all elements have an attribute which says how it should be
> >  >> pronounced which
> >  >> is constant.
> >  >>
> >  >> Thanks for the quick replies.
> >  >> Timmy
> >  >>
> >  >>
> >  >>
> >  >> On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 11:35 AM, Ian McNicoll <ian at mcmi.co.uk>
> wrote:
> >  >>> Hi Timmy,
> >  >>>
> >  >>> Can you explain the domain model in a little more detail?
> >  >>>
> >  >>> Ian
> >  >>>
> >  >>>
> >  >>>
> >  >>>
> >  >>>
> >  >>> On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 9:58 AM, TimmyX <TimmyX at gmail.com> wrote:
> >  >>>>
> >  >>>> Hello!
> >  >>>>
> >  >>>> Within the context of my bachelor thesis, i am trying to
> >  >>>> transform a
> >  >> domain
> >  >>>> model into an archetype, but now i am having some problems and i
> >  >>>> hope
> >  >> maybe
> >  >>>> some of you here can help me.
> >  >>>>
> >  >>>> My first question is, is it possible to define constant or "hard
> >  >>>> coded"
> >  >>>> values ie. constant text which contains a description?
> >  >>>> So far I am trying to add a CODED_TEXT that matches a defined
> >  >> constraint
> >  >>>> ac0001, but i am not sure if this is a valid solution.
> >  >>>>
> >  >>>>        ITEM_TREE[at0003] matches {     -- ITEM_TREE
> >  >>>>                items cardinality matches {0..*; unordered}
> >  >>>> matches {
> >  >>>>                        CLUSTER[at0004] occurrences matches {0..1}
> >  >> matches {    -- Top
> >  >>>>                                items cardinality matches {0..*;
> >  >> unordered} matches {
> >  >>>>                                        ELEMENT[at0005] occurrences
> >  >> matches {0..1} matches {    -- SpokenDefault
> >  >>>>                                                value matches {
> >  >>>>
> >  >>>> DV_CODED_TEXT
> >  >> matches {
> >  >>>>
> >  >> defining_code matches {[ac0001]}                -- Top
> >  >>>>                                                                }
> >  >>>>                                                        }
> >  >>>>
> >  >>>> and the other question
> >  >>>> How do i add "sub-elements", is it even possible? ie. I have a
> Text
> >  >> field
> >  >>>> "Top" and i want to add a Text field "SpokenDefault" to it, which
> >  >>>> shows
> >  >> how
> >  >>>> to pronounce the word Top. the way i do it right now is creating a
> >  >> cluster
> >  >>>> for every "element" which is not very effective.
> >  >>>>
> >  >>>> thanks in advance
> >  >>>> TimmyX
> >  >>>> --
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> >  >>
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