Thomas,
I am very impressed with these statistics. I was not aware of the
penetration of openEHR into that volume of use. Congratulations for a hugh
success. Can you help me identify the actual systems that are in use in
Australia, Netherlands and Brazil. I am specifically interested in the EHR
systems that use openEHR. We need to build on those successes.
Thanks for sharing this information.
Best Regards,
Ed Hammond
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I also don't think that the metric means much, but for the record, there
are 4 million patients in an openEHR server (v0.95) in Australia, some
thousands (ultimate design vlume 1,000,000 EHRs) in the Netherlands, and
probably some thousands in Brazil - that I know directly about. None of
these products are open source, but the data and interfaces are
completely open.
Tim Cook wrote:
> Hi Ignacio,
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> On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 10:16 -0600, Ignacio Valdes wrote:
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>> I will re-phrase. Can anyone tell me how many actual patients does
>> anyone have in any system that conforms to the OpenEHR specification
>> that is FOSS licensed?
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> Re-phasing isn't necessary. I think that everyone understood your
> question. The problem is that your metric is nonsensical.
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> As a US veteran I have no choice in which EMR my records are stored.
> Nor does the physician have a choice in which application they use. So
> you can measure the number of patient records in VistA. But really is
> that any measure of it's validity? No it isn't. It is mandated by the
> organization not via some engineering principles but by simple
> availability.
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> While I understand that you haven't had time to study the openEHR specs.
> I do believe that it is incumbent upon you as the leader of the AMIA
> OSWG to do so or appoint students/academics to do so.
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> Even some FOSS application developers have called for a common data
> model. What they do not yet realize is that what they really want in a
> common information model. openEHR represents this requirement. But
> when they look at it they want something simpler. However, as Albert
> Einstein said; Keep everything as simple as possible, but no simpler.
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> Healthcare information is complex. Therefore the (openEHR) information
> model is necessarily complex to some extent. You will either study and
> embrace it or you will be a victim of the constantly evolving "data
> model" of other systems that are never inter-operable.
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> Tim
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