Hi Olof, I agree this is a significant missing piece of the reference model and I am not sure how close the overall ADL 1.5 spec is to being finalised but the operational template definition appears to be very stable and can act as a reference point for coalescing various local template implementations and tooling developments. Thomas has already added ADL1.5 support to the ADL Workbench and the specs seem to me to be stable enough to start implementation in Java. I think the issue is lack of time/resource, rather than immaturity of the specifications - it would be interesting to get Rong's take on this but I suspect he implemented a great deal of the current Java model prior to a stable RM being specified. Indeed I would only expect a truly stable specification to emerge after some implementation experience.
IMO most real-world implementations which strive for interoperability and maximally-defined archetypes will almost all work via operational templates for validation, code -generation GUI integration. I don't think we have to wait for the full ratification of ADL1.5 and template spec to start doing interesting things in downstream support, assuming that the opt definition is pretty stable. The issues of extra directives and extensions are important at this stage as arguably some should be supported in the operational template, as I discussed above. Ian Dr Ian McNicoll office / fax? +44(0)1536 414994 mobile +44 (0)775 209 7859 skype ianmcnicoll ian.mcnicoll at oceaninformatics.com Clinical analyst,?Ocean Informatics openEHR Clinical Knowledge Editor www.openehr.org/knowledge Honorary Senior Research Associate, CHIME, UCL BCS Primary Health Care SG Group www.phcsg.org On 1 December 2010 17:19, Olof Torgersson <olof.torgersson at chalmers.se> wrote: > Hi, > When it comes to templates, what I would like to see is that they are > finalized and become a part of standard implementations such as the Java > reference model. This is something I've been waiting for since I first > viewed this list a couple of years ago. > Then, as a next step one could start discussing various extensions, > directives etc. > Regards > Olof Torgersson > 1 dec 2010 kl. 13.24 skrev Erik Sundvall: > > Hi All! > There was a related discussion regarding GUI-directives/hints around june > 2008, that I tried to summarize in the post > ?http://www.openehr.org/mailarchives/openehr-technical/msg03755.html > As you will see that post is somewhere in the middle of the thread, so you > can find other interesting things before and after that post in the > archives. > Now, if I understand things correctly there is now implementatin experience > from at least three projects regarding GUI-hints/directives (please add more > if you know any): > - Zilics > (http://www.openehr.org/mailarchives/openehr-technical/msg03767.html) > -?GastrOs?Endoscopy Application by Koray Atalag et.al. > -?Open EHR-Gen by?Pablo?Pazos et.al. > What about trying to formalize some recommendations based on this > experience, and perhaps even write a piece of specification draft that fits > the new ADL 1.5 thinking regarding templates and archetypes. > Would it be possible for anybody from any of the three projects to start a > wiki page to describe your GUI-directives/hints and then we could compare > them all and get a discussion going on the list possibly followed by some > community driven development of a draft specification to try out. > Best regards, > Erik Sundvall > erik.sundvall at liu.se http://www.imt.liu.se/~erisu/? Tel: +46-13-286733 > <ATT00001..txt> > > _______________________________________________ > openEHR-technical mailing list > openEHR-technical at openehr.org > http://lists.chime.ucl.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/openehr-technical > >
