Hi Tony, I am going there and I believe some of colleagues at Dept. of Biomedical Engineering, Link?ping University are also going.
Cheers, Rong On 29 June 2010 10:20, Derek Meyer <dmeyer at sgul.ac.uk> wrote: > Hi Tony, > > I'm registered to attend - just need to sort out the funding and to book > my flights... > > See you there, > > Derek. > > Shannon Tony (Leeds Teaching Hospitals NHS Trust) wrote: >> Thanks Koray, >> >> Been away for a bit but would be good to restart this thread.. as September >> is getting closer. >> >> Let me restart with a shout of hands as to how many on the list expect to be >> there? >> Its coming time to look at flight arrangements soon.. >> >> (NB Welcome any other thoughts on workshop too)... >> >> Regards, >> >> Tony >> ________________________________________ >> From: openehr-clinical-bounces at openehr.org [openehr-clinical-bounces at >> openehr.org] On Behalf Of Koray Atalag [k.atalag at auckland.ac.nz] >> Sent: 17 May 2010 11:01 >> To: For openEHR clinical discussions >> Cc: For openEHR technical discussions >> Subject: RE: Medinfo 2010 openEHR tutorial collision >> >> Resending as plain text - bounced back due to file size when I replied >> >> --------- >> Hi, so it looks we are definitely going to have the clinical modelling >> workshop on Saturday. >> >> Looking at the discussions between Tony and Heather I note that there is an >> agreement on finishing up the workshop by demonstration the whole continuum >> of requirements>modelling>design>development. I totally agree. Indeed we >> haven't yet discussed about individual presentations but this is how I had >> in mind about my presentation. I will start with the requirements for >> archetype modelling in endoscopy domain, then present archetypes and the >> final template which will then be followed with demonstration of our .Net/C# >> openEHR implementation of an endoscopy report generator application with an >> emphasis on GUI aspects. I also want to touch software maintainability as a >> merit of modelling using openEHR. I think this flow fits well into what you >> think. >> >> Perhaps we should all start discussing how to design the whole workshop. >> >> Cheers, >> >> -koray >> >> >> From: openehr-clinical-bounces at openehr.org >> [mailto:openehr-clinical-bounces at openehr.org] On Behalf Of Heather Leslie >> Sent: Friday, 14 May 2010 5:43 a.m. >> To: Shannon Tony (Leeds Teaching Hospitals NHS Trust) >> Cc: For openEHR clinical discussions; For openEHR technical discussions >> Subject: Re: Medinfo 2010 openEHR tutorial collision >> >> >> >> On 13/05/2010 1:10 PM, Shannon Tony (Leeds Teaching Hospitals NHS Trust) >> wrote: >> Thanks Heather >> >> Sounds good, though my sense is that if the "clinical" workshop appears to >> have been allocated 6 hours (1.5 x4) and the "technical" (developers) >> workshop has 1.5 hours on Monday, there will be attendees on the Saturday >> that will want to get into the technical detail you want to avoid? >> I know it is 'not fair' but I'm not sure that we can change the scope of the >> accepted proposal in order to even it out. ? I understood that the accepted >> workshop paper will be published and so we cannot change at whim, especially >> in terms of the expected audience and expected learning outcomes. ?I'm happy >> to be corrected... >> >> As I've said previously, I think that we do have some room for flexibility >> in the final session and certainly a willingness to do so. >> >> >> As the Saturday sessions are currently labelled openEHR I- IV in the "draft" >> programme we should be asking the organisers to amend the session titles to >> avoid confusion.. >> We can certainly request that. >> >> Building overlap between the final "openEHR in action" session on the >> Saturday and the developers session on the Monday sounds a good way to align. >> Absolutely >> >> >> Awaiting some reaction from the technical side.... >> me too;-) >> >> >> Regards >> >> Tony >> >> ________________________________________ >> From: Heather Leslie [omowizard at gmail.com] On Behalf Of Heather Leslie >> [heather.leslie at oceaninformatics.com] >> Sent: 13 May 2010 13:43 >> To: Shannon Tony (Leeds Teaching Hospitals NHS Trust) >> Cc: For openEHR clinical discussions; For openEHR technical discussions >> Subject: Re: Medinfo 2010 openEHR tutorial collision >> Hi Tony >> >> On 13/05/2010 9:17 AM, Tony Shannon wrote: >> Thanks Heather >> >> I see from the "clinical" proposal how the 4 sessions on the Saturday >> are to be split... >> Session 1: Introduction >> Break >> Session 2: Focus on Archetypes >> Lunch >> Session 3: Focus on Templates >> Break >> Session 4: openEHR in action >> My reading of this is that there will be a mix of clinical and technical >> ? language used to step through these sessions, >> As primary author, the original intent was to be focused on the engagement >> of clinicians and those with no openEHR background - a primer if you like - >> and to keep the technical content to a practical minimum, assuming that >> there would be an equivalent technical opportunity. >> Now that has not eventuated but as I said in the previous email, I need >> advice as to how much we can move from our accepted proposal - I suspect we >> are largely bound to it as is, but can see the flexibility to present more >> technical aspects within the context of the final session - openEHR in >> action. >> >> ?which if done well >> should be fine. >> >> #Suggestion #1 >> Within the clinical workshop, I expect novice clinicians to come with a >> common clinical requirement in mind and be keen to see how that ends up >> at the UI layer, where the vast majority of clinicians meets the >> technology.. >> ie >> 1.Assume we should be taking a common requirement, eg Patient Summary >> 2.explore related archetypes required, eg in CKM >> 3.creation of related template >> 4.exposure of said template at UI layer.. >> >> This is largely what was proposed as part of #3 - after a general >> introduction in session #1, and information about archetypes/CKM in #2, then >> we can showcase the templates with a practical example such as you suggest >> in #3 >> >> (While I'm cc'ing the technical list in here, how much technical debate >> do the technical community expect will be generated by this "clinical" >> proposal? >> The current state of the template spec and the challenge of translating >> archetypes and templates into the UI layer comes to mind and could get >> quite technical...) >> >> IMO this workshop is definitely not the place for this kind of discussion! >> >> Also my sense is that the developers session on the Monday will replay >> many of these issues, which is why I'm suggesting ... >> #Suggestion #2 >> we need to coordinate between these sessions to ensure a consistent >> message and the highlights from the pre-conference sessions can be >> "replayed" during the intra-conference session.. >> >> I would love to see the final session #4 especially be coordinated so that >> it can be a seamless segue into the technical session on the Monday >> >> Regards >> >> Heather >> >> Regards, >> >> Tony >> >> >> Heather Leslie wrote: >> >> I'm very happy to receive your advice on this. >> >> We have a great opportunity with the full day workshop and afternoon >> technical workshop, however I don't feel that we have total freedom to >> rearrange our proposed workshop plan. >> >> We have provided an outline of the proposed plan and included the >> statement that the full day clinical modelling workshop assumes no >> previous knowledge of openEHR, that it will be clinical modelling >> focused, clinicians are encouraged to attend, and there are explicit >> 'educational goals'. This information will be used by potential >> attendees to choose whether to attend or not, so to transform the >> program significantly is probably not advisable. ?The most flexibility >> is probably in the final session where we aim to show openEHR in real use. >> >> What are your suggestions in order to achieve best outcomes? >> >> Cheers >> >> Heather >> >> On 12/05/2010 7:53 AM, Tony Shannon wrote: >> >> Thanks Eric, Koray, Shinji, Heather, Seref, >> >> The way the programme outlines openEHR sessions looks ripe for potential >> confusion... >> >> A search of the draft programme by keyword highlights openEHR 5 times, >> (#1-4) openEHR sessions I-IV over the day on the Saturday 11th September >> (#5) openEHR developers session on the evening of Monday 13th September >> >> >> I'd suggest that the clinical and technical sides of the openEHR >> community need to agree between us how to blend our efforts together to >> get the best value for our time and those that want to come and learn. >> >> >> >> The best format that comes to mind would be to; >> -A) use to 4 sessions on the precongress tutorial on the Saturday 11th >> to explore how healthcare can change for the better with openEHR over >> those 4 sessions, by blending the "clinical workshop" proposal with the >> "openEHR developers workshop" proposal in successive stages over the day.. >> something along the lines of... Context & Intro re need for change; >> Clinical/Technical Requirements -->Design/Build --> and then >> Implementation + Clinical/Technical Benefits of openEHR >> >> -B) take the highlights of that day, with clinical + technical blend >> into a single session for replay on the Monday 13th, to the different >> audience that can be anticipated on that first day of the formal conference. >> >> I appreciate that might be seen to be disruptive of the existing >> proposals, but I'm sure they can be blended effectively. >> >> I'm thinking of the novice to openEHR who will want to come away with an >> understanding of how clinicians and technical folk can work together to >> get a job done and a view that the openEHR approach is the way to go... >> >> Happy to get bounced back on this. We havent had enough debate on this >> list of late, so again I'm trying to provoke! >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Tony >> >> Dr. Tony Shannon >> Consultant in Emergency Medicine, Leeds Teaching Hospitals >> Clinical Lead for Informatics, ? ?Leeds Teaching Hospitals >> Chair, Clinical Review Board, openEHR Foundation >> +44.789.988 5068 ? ? ? ? ? ?tony.shannon at nhs.net >> >> >> Erik Sundvall wrote: >> >> >> Hi! >> >> The recently published preliminary Medinfo 2010 programme at... >> http://www.medinfo2010.org/docs/Draft_Conference_Programme.pdf >> ...lists two openEHR tutorials in parallel... >> 1. OpenEHR I - IV (Saturday 11 September 9:00-17:00) >> 2. EHR implementation tips I-II (Saturday 11 September 9:00-12:30) >> >> If I understand the content of the tutorials correctly, these are >> renamed versions of the ones mentioned on... >> http://www.openehr.org/wiki/display/resources/MedInfo+2010+-+South+Africa >> 1. Clinical Modeling Workshop Proposal >> 2. The openEHR developers' workshop >> >> If so, then I think it would be advantageous for somebody interested >> in openEHR to first attend 1 and then if they have a technical >> implementation interest to also attend 2. >> >> Is there an interest among the openEHR community in asking the >> organizing comitte to move #2 to sunday the 12:th instead or does it >> not matter for most of you? >> >> I'll send a copy of this mail to info at medinfo2010.org as an early >> notice, and then sum up the response from the lists and/or comments on >> http://www.openehr.org/wiki/display/resources/MedInfo+2010+-+South+Africa >> in a follow up mail later. >> >> In addition to the reason above, about #2 partially building on >> understanding possible to gain in #1, it is also rather tricky >> flight-wise, but hopefully possible, for some of us involved in #2 to >> be there in time on the morning the 11:th. >> >> Best regards, >> Erik Sundvall >> erik.sundvall at liu.se http://www.imt.liu.se/~erisu/ ?Tel: +46-13-286733 >> _______________________________________________ >> openEHR-clinical mailing list >> openEHR-clinical at openehr.org >> http://lists.chime.ucl.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/openehr-clinical >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> ******************************************************************************************************************** >> >> This message may contain confidential information. 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