Hi All,

As written below most of IHTSDO:s activities are currently performed inside
IHTSDO:s "Collaborative space" (also known as "Basecamp"). This
Collaborative space is a legacy system from before IHTSDO acquired SNOMED?CT
and probably not the best system due to the current needs, but the system is
still there because of lack of time to change system. However, there are now
ongoing discussions and there seems to be a new project initiated to
supplement or replace the current Collaborative space to make it easier for
people outside IHTSDO:s groups to get information and share resources.

More information about how to get access to the Collaborative space is, as
written below, available at
http://www.ihtsdo.org/about-ihtsdo/collaborative-space/. The currently
existing Special Interest Groups at the Collaborative space are:

Anesthesia Special Interest Group
Concept Model Special Interest Group
Education Special Interest Group
Implementation SIG
International Pathology & Laboratory Medicine SIG
Machine & Human Readable Concept Model Project
Mapping SNOMED CT to ICD-10 Project
Nursing Special Interest Group
Pharmacy Special Interest Group
Primary Care Special Interest Group
Translation Special Interest Group

And the currently existing project groups are:

Anatomy Model Project
Collaborative Editing Project Group
Enhanced Release Format, Interchange Format & RefSet PG
Event, Condition and Episode Model Project
Workbench RefSet Module Project
Observable and Investigation Model Project
Organism & Infectious Disease Model Project
Pre-coordination Roadmap Project
Request Submission Project
Substance Hierarchy Redesign Project
Translation Standard Processes Project

There are also a affiliate forum.

        Greetings,
        Mikael


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:openehr-clinical-bounces at chime.ucl.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Eric Browne
Sent: den 6 maj 2010 13:20
To: For openEHR clinical discussions
Cc: For openEHR clinical discussions; Openehr-Technical
Subject: Re: IHTSDO meeting - term binding presentation available

Hi Sebastian, 

If I can give my own perspective on this, having been peripherally involved
for some time..

1. Unfortunately, the IHTSDO (www.ihtsdo.org), who is responsible for the
ongoing management and development of SNOMED CT, is still a somewhat closed
and traditional standards development organisation. It has no publicly
accessible wiki of resources ? la openEHR. It does, however, have a
substantial community of individuals from member countries and affiliate
organisations and several collaborative websites and mailing lists where
ideas, contributions, new specifications etc. are documented and evolve. I
would guess that the majority of participants are either active in other
standards development organisations, or staff/affiliates of member nation
health informatics programs such as the UK's NHS Connecting for Health
Program, Canada's Infoway, Australia's National E-Health Transition
Authority, etc.

2. For many years prior to IHTSDO taking over SNOMED CT from the College of
American Pathologists, SNOMED CT embraced a mechanism and format for
producing "subsets" of SNOMED CT. About 18 months ago, proposals for a new
SNOMED release format and a new Reference Set format (to replace the old
subset mechanism) emerged and evolved. These two proposals morphed into a
single umbrella specification called Release Format 2, which has now reached
Draft for Trial Use status within the IHTSDO. One of the specification
documents covers Reference Set formats and is available in part 2 of RF2 at:
http://www.ihtsdo.org/publications/draft-for-review-and-trial-use/ .  This
draft specification includes support for "language refsets", which may be of
particular interest to you. Access to the collaborative space where these
documents are made available is described at:
http://www.ihtsdo.org/about-ihtsdo/collaborative-space/ .

3. To my knowledge there is no formal IHTSDO proposal for a query language
to express Refset membership specifications. However, the IHTSDO Terminology
Workbench does incorporate quite a sophisticated mechanism for building
refsets using an underlying ( and evolving) query-based expression language.
Note: these refsets do not necessarily need to be specific to SNOMED. The
refset specifications, however, are currently designed to  construct  static
files for distribution alongside the SNOMED core and national extension
files, rather than for producing dynamically evaluated termsets for  local
needs, as might be supported for openEHR templates, say.

eric
----

On 2010-05-06, at 5:48 PM, Sebastian Garde wrote:

> Hi Thomas,
> 
> do you know if there is a formal way of how RefSets (=the resulting Snomed
CT codes etc.) and the RefSet query (=the query on Snomed CT to get to the
RefSet) are expressed and shared?
> Similar to what is described here but based on RefSets:
http://www.openehr.org/wiki/display/term/Ocean+Terminology+Query+Language+%2
8TQL%29 
> 
> I agree that RefSets are a good way forward, but they need to be
available, reusable and sharable, etc.
> 
> Sebastian
> 
> Thomas Beale wrote:
>> 
>> I attended the IHTSDO meeting just finished in Copenhagen. Things look
pretty good for where SNOMED CT is going generally - the RF2 technical
infrastructure seems relatively well designed. There is a lot of activity in
content modeling, the IHTSDO workbench and many other areas relevant to
openEHR. Converely, I believe openEHR will be very important to make SNOMED
CT work in many places, since it will be via archetypes, templates and
associated ref sets that information systems will be able to connect to
terminology in a disciplined way. I believe that ref sets are the future of
SNOMED CT (and any terminology for that matter) in use in real systems.
>> 
>> I was asked to present a view from openEHR about 'terminology binding',
i.e. connecting terminology and information models. My presentation is on
this page http://www.openehr.org/wiki/display/term/Terminology+Binding 
>> or see the following direct links:
>>      ? PDF -
http://www.openehr.org/wiki/download/attachments/5997267/openEHR_term_bindin
g_IHTSDO_april_2010.pdf
>>      ? PPTX -
http://www.openehr.org/wiki/download/attachments/5997267/openEHR_term_bindin
g_IHTSDO_april_2010.pptx
>> I hope this is useful.  I will continue to document IHTSDO-related
thoughts on the openEHR wiki, and I encourage others to do the same.
>> 
>> - thomas beale
>> 
>> 
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