Your experiences are different than mine. I must confess that I have not
been in any HL7 meeting which included shouting down. Disagreements - yes;
but not shouting down. In any case, The problem with kicking out the
non-modelers is that I am not sure who defines the experts - we ourselves?
I am not smart enough to think I know all the answers - or perhaps I should
say I am smart enough to know that I do not know all the answers. I
strongly believe in the democratic process. My knowledge of other
approaches have always lead to disaster. mI also have no problem with
disagreements. In fact, I think we find better solutions when we disagree.
But disagreements demand respectful discussions. I would think much of the
world would not accept your comment about proper design.
W. Ed Hammond, Ph.D.
Director, Duke Center for Health Informatics
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Ed,
that's the whole problem with these standards committees: they are full of
people whose competence is not modelling or engineering, and who don't see
the downstream consequences of their choices, and in any case, the
'democratic' committee process largely prevents proper design occurring.
People just object to whatever, country X demands that a certain attribute
be renamed... it just comes down to who came on the day and who shouts
loudest.
I came to HL7 meetings for 5 or 6 years, and followed all the required
process (well, except the shouting down in meetings, sorry I am not into
that), and it had no effect. I know many many people who have said the same
thing, including people in key positions in e-health programmes around the
world.
- thomas
On 25/11/2010 17:26, William E Hammond wrote:
OK. I accept the comment. However, the problem I have is that many
of the
comments are a matter of opinion - that's ok, but it is not a right
or
wrong. If the issues were balloted, by shere numbers HL7 would come
out
ahead. The comment of attributes in quotes and the comment
incorrectly
named does not make your point.
If you want HL7 to respond to your critiques, sedn them to the TSC or
HL7
leadership.
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