Hi Thomas, I am not quite sure what you are saying here, though I agree, in essence, the scoring system, like most others, is flattening a variety of patient findings into a single term which also then carries a score. The problem is that whilst the ordinal terms are unique, the related values are not and can have duplicates.
So is this a valid ordinal ? ordinal constraint? Ian Dr Ian McNicoll office +44 (0)1536 414 994 fax +44 (0)1536 516317 mobile +44 (0)775 209 7859 skype ianmcnicoll ian.mcnicoll at oceaninformatics.com Clinical Modelling Consultant, Ocean Informatics, UK openEHR Clinical Knowledge Editor www.openehr.org/knowledge Honorary Senior Research Associate, CHIME, UCL BCS Primary Health Care www.phcsg.org On 1 August 2011 17:04, Thomas Beale <thomas.beale at oceaninformatics.com>wrote: > If we consider this an ordinal based model, in which numbers which have > multiple possible values, e.g. skin type: 1 is for tissue paper dry, > oedematous, etc - this would be modelling using terminological synonyms for > a notional term whose meaning was something like 'waterlow skin type 1'. > > - thomas > > > On 01/08/2011 16:17, Ian McNicoll wrote: > > I have come across an interesting example of where we might want to > model an ordinal constraint where the values associated with each term > are not unique. > > The example is the Waterlow Score > http://www.judy-waterlow.co.uk/downloads/Waterlow%20Score%20Card-front.pdf > > If you look at the bottom-right corner "Major surgery / Trauma" you > will se that two terms have identical values. > > Currently the openEHR Archetype Editor will not let me add duplicate > values with separate terms. It is not clear (at least to me) from the > specifications that this behaviour is correct. > > Is this a CR for the Archetype Editor, a CR to the Ref Model, or a > clever alternative modelling suggestion to me? > > Regards, > > Ian > Dr Ian McNicoll > office +44 (0)1536 414 994 > fax +44 (0)1536 516317 > mobile +44 (0)775 209 7859 > skype ianmcnicollian.mcnicoll at oceaninformatics.com > > Clinical Modelling Consultant, Ocean Informatics, UK > openEHR Clinical Knowledge Editor www.openehr.org/knowledge > Honorary Senior Research Associate, CHIME, UCL > BCS Primary Health Care www.phcsg.org > > > _______________________________________________ > openEHR-clinical mailing list > openEHR-clinical at > openehr.orghttp://lists.chime.ucl.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/openehr-clinical > > > > -- > [image: Ocean Informatics] *Thomas Beale > Chief Technology Officer, Ocean Informatics<http://www.oceaninformatics.com/> > * > > Chair Architectural Review Board, *open*EHR > Foundation<http://www.openehr.org/> > Honorary Research Fellow, University College > London<http://www.chime.ucl.ac.uk/> > Chartered IT Professional Fellow, BCS, British Computer > Society<http://www.bcs.org.uk/> > Health IT blog <http://www.wolandscat.net/> > * > * > > _______________________________________________ > openEHR-clinical mailing list > openEHR-clinical at openehr.org > http://lists.chime.ucl.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/openehr-clinical > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/private/openehr-technical_lists.openehr.org/attachments/20110801/06c6f646/attachment.html> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: ocean_full_small.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 5828 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/private/openehr-technical_lists.openehr.org/attachments/20110801/06c6f646/attachment.jpg>

