Hi Thomas,

I am not quite sure what you are saying here, though I agree, in essence,
the scoring system, like most others, is flattening a variety of patient
findings into a single term which also then carries a score. The problem is
that whilst the ordinal terms are unique, the related values are not and can
have duplicates.

So is this a valid ordinal ? ordinal constraint?

Ian

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On 1 August 2011 17:04, Thomas Beale <thomas.beale at 
oceaninformatics.com>wrote:

>  If we consider this an ordinal based model, in which numbers which have
> multiple possible values, e.g. skin type: 1 is for tissue paper dry,
> oedematous, etc - this would be modelling using terminological synonyms for
> a notional term whose meaning was something like 'waterlow skin type 1'.
>
> - thomas
>
>
> On 01/08/2011 16:17, Ian McNicoll wrote:
>
> I have come across an interesting example of where we might want to
> model an ordinal constraint where the values associated with each term
> are not unique.
>
> The example is the Waterlow Score
> http://www.judy-waterlow.co.uk/downloads/Waterlow%20Score%20Card-front.pdf
>
> If you look at the bottom-right corner "Major surgery / Trauma" you
> will se that two terms have identical values.
>
> Currently the openEHR Archetype Editor will not let me add duplicate
> values with separate terms. It is not clear (at least to me) from the
> specifications that this behaviour is correct.
>
> Is this a CR for the Archetype Editor, a CR to the Ref Model, or a
> clever alternative modelling suggestion to me?
>
> Regards,
>
> Ian
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