Hi There have been a few issues with DV_IDENTIFIER - largely that all fields are mandatory. This may mean that users puts stuff in that is not helpful. There is also no known set of things to use at any point although this could be expressed in a template (or archetype although this would not be appropriate).
There is a WORKFLOW_ID on every entry that Ocean have been using to link data around a particular workflow - this is the PLACER_ID in HL7 v2. It allows observations, actions etc to be related to a particular instruction. This is working well and keeps things relatively simple. Feeder_audit is a great way to find information about feeder systems and is present in 13606 as well. It is not in the archetype (constrained) but should be visible soon in CKM. I would also suggest that we allow people to use the HL7/ISO datatype names for the models to aid use and familiarity. It will be a diminished set (openEHR compatible) but should meet all the needs of the modellers. Cheers, Sam > -----Original Message----- > From: openehr-technical-bounces at openehr.org [mailto:openehr-technical- > bounces at openehr.org] On Behalf Of Ian McNicoll > Sent: Wednesday, 19 January 2011 8:32 AM > To: For openEHR technical discussions > Subject: Re: Use of Identifiers in archetypes > > Hi Grahame, > > The concern about FEEDER_AUDIT related to its use in outgoing service > requests e.g. within referrals / lab requests etc. This is > technically possible but against the intentions within the > specifications as Thomas suggested in his eralier reply. Personally I > would be happy to see the specifications change to allow FEEDER_AUDIT > used in this way. > > Ian > > Dr Ian McNicoll > office +44 (0)1536 414994 > fax +44 (0)1536 516317 > mobile +44 (0)775 209 7859 > skype ianmcnicoll > ian.mcnicoll at oceaninformatics.com > > Clinical analyst,?Ocean Informatics, UK > openEHR Clinical Knowledge Editor www.openehr.org/knowledge > Honorary Senior Research Associate, CHIME, UCL > BCS Primary Health Care ?www.phcsg.org > > > > > On 18 January 2011 20:30, Grahame Grieve <grahame at kestral.com.au> > wrote: > > Hi Peter, Tom > > > > thanks > > > >> Just take care to use FEEDER_AUDIT for ids generated in external > systems, > >> rather than assigned within the openEHR system, including by users > of apps > >> talking directly to the openEHR system. > > > > I'm not sure which way to parse that sentence > > > > Generally, about FEEDER_AUDIT, it's something I had missed, so I'll > go > > and review it, but how does it manifest in the archetype editor? > > > > Ian: > > > >> Using FEEDER_AUDIT was actually discussed as part of deciding how > best > >> to handle Placer and Filler Order numbers in lab tests etc . The > >> problem we have is that we also need to add these identifiers to > >> outgoing order /referral messages (and track those within the EHR), > >> and FEEDER_AUDIT was deemed unsuitable for this purpose. > > > > because the identifiers weren't explicitly identified? Can you say > why it > > was deemed unsuitable? > > > > thanks > > Grahame > > _______________________________________________ > > openEHR-technical mailing list > > openEHR-technical at openehr.org > > http://lists.chime.ucl.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/openehr-technical > > > > _______________________________________________ > openEHR-technical mailing list > openEHR-technical at openehr.org > http://lists.chime.ucl.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/openehr-technical
