I will suggest a new optional section on the ADL, if those conditions
end in the archetype tree structure it could really be a mess.

So if you just want to look for the structure you only have to ignore
that section

2011/3/23 Heath Frankel <heath.frankel at oceaninformatics.com>:
> Hi Seref,
> I agree with you sediments regarding Archetypes. ?However, the AOM still
> needs to support something like this for templates, in my view this is the
> level where we will want to start making conditional statements about data
> constraints (and this is still before we get to the GUI, as I may have the
> same conditional constraint requirement in an integration scenario).
>
> Heath
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: openehr-technical-bounces at openehr.org [mailto:openehr-technical-
>> bounces at openehr.org] On Behalf Of Seref Arikan
>> Sent: Wednesday, 23 March 2011 10:03 AM
>> To: For openEHR technical discussions
>> Subject: Re: future ADL-versions
>>
>> Greetings,
>> I have a single question about this particular requirement/idea: why?
>>
>> Archetypes are model artefacts. That is it. They are supposed to
>> describe domain models in a certain way. Behaviour or software that
>> uses those models is a completely different thing. I can understand a
>> constraint which references another one for defining a valid interval
>> etc, but how on earth something like forcing a user for another entry
>> is going to be handled during implementation? How would one express
>> this in common formalisms like XML?
>>
>> I could understand a suggestion to use ADL to express rules regarding
>> the archetypes, but that should be a formalism leaving in a separate
>> space, which may be linked to archetypes, which
>> only-contain-constraints-on-RM-types.
>>
>> Please keep behaviour our of models in ADL specifications.
>>
>> Regards
>> Seref
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Bert Verhees <bert.verhees at rosa.nl>
>> wrote:
>> > Thanks, Thomas, for your reply. There is more to it then I initially
>> > thought of.
>> >
>> > I am not very familiar with XPath. Best is to wait for more
>> information
>> > on the specs.
>> > This is enough for now, to let customers give something to think
>> about.
>> >
>> > Bert
>> >
>> > On 16-03-11 19:32, Thomas Beale wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi Bert,
>> >>
>> >> I hope to get back on the spec in the next couple of weeks. With
>> respect
>> >> to your specific question below, can you be a bit more precise?
>> There
>> >> are ways to express this kind of thing, but we need to be clear on
>> >> distinguishing references to:
>> >>
>> >> ? ? * elements in the same archetype - as in a rule like:
>> >> ? ? ? ? ? o /path/to/systolic/pressure/value >
>> >> ? ? ? ? ? ? /path/to/diastolic/pressure/value
>> >> ? ? * elements in data elsewhere in the same EHR like:
>> >> ? ? ? ? ? o $date_of_birth:ISO8601_DATE ::= query(?ehr?,
>> ?date_of_birth?)
>> >> ? ? ? ? ? o this is still being finalised, so don't depend on it;
>> >> ? ? ? ? ? ? however it is the left hand side that matters, i.e.
>> >> ? ? ? ? ? ? $date_of_birth
>> >> ? ? * environmental values, like
>> >> ? ? ? ? ? o $current_date
>> >> ? ? ? ? ? o $current_time
>> >>
>> >> Some of this is still being finalised, but the general syntax will
>> look
>> >> like Xpath and the object model will be what you would expect from
>> that.
>> >>
>> >> - thomas
>> >>
>> >> On 10/03/2011 15:48, Bert Verhees wrote:
>> >>> Hi,
>> >>>
>> >>> I am sorry, but I am to busy to read all the discussions on future
>> >>> ADL-versions.
>> >>> So, now I have a small question, which possible is already
>> explained,
>> >>>
>> >>> Is it possible to write conditional constraints in future ADL?
>> >>>
>> >>> The question is about implementing care-protocol into an archetype.
>> >>>
>> >>> For example, if blood-pressure is> ?200, force to use another
>> entry, for
>> >>> example also look at heartbeat
>> >>>
>> >>> Is there any idea when this new specifications will be in final
>> version?
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks
>> >>> Bert
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
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