Hi Thomas,

You will need those statuses from every activity in every type of care plan, 
whether separated or aggregated.

>From the general coordinating provider point of view the overwhelming response 
>we hear is that they want one single care plan that covers all problems rather 
>than having to view multiple fragmented ones for each problem, although the 
>ability to see the origins of each activity is also necessary for viewing, 
>sharing in context etc.

This could either be implemented as a master view of an amalgamation of all 
'problem'-based care plans, with ability to reconcile equivalent or similar 
acitvities or lump some together to be achieved simultaneously eg send the 
patient off for a single blood test at which all due bloods can be done.

Or alternatively it can be a single care plan that uses some method to tag with 
the problem/s for separation out when clinically relevant.

I don't particularly mind - it is largely an implementation question from my 
POV.

Our implementations tend to the single care plan 

Heather

> -----Original Message-----
> From: openEHR-technical [mailto:openehr-technical-
> bounces at lists.openehr.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Beale
> Sent: Thursday, 20 November 2014 6:07 PM
> To: openehr-technical at lists.openehr.org
> Subject: Re: Problem-oriented records and querying by problem
> 
> 
> I wonder if the GP 'master care plan' is more like a 'care plan dashboard' 
> rather
> than an actual care plan? With functions like 'show all overdue / suspended /
> etc etc'...
> 
> - thomas
> 
> On 20/11/2014 17:25, Heather Leslie wrote:
> > Hi Karsten,
> >
> > I think in practice you will see a variety of care plans depending on the
> context.
> >
> > The endocrinologist will be using a diabetes care plan for their care of the
> patient, and likely not having access to, nor particularly interested in, what
> other specialists might be scheduling.
> >
> > The cardiologist will be using a cardiology-protocol-based care plan, 
> > probably
> developed in splendid isolation from the endocrinologist activities.
> >
> > The rehab specialist will be using a purpose-built care plan for the 
> > patient's
> recovery from a knee replacement.
> >
> > However it will be critical that the GP or coordinating primary care 
> > provider
> develop/need a single global care plan, (which can be separated out for the
> different purposes, if needed) that provides an overview of all activities 
> that the
> patient requires - what is due, overdue, planned etc. This will ensure that 
> the
> blood glucose and renal function tests required by both the endocrinologist 
> and
> cardiologist iare coordinated, if clinically appropriate and tests/appts not
> repeated unnecessarily. They will have access to a 'master' plan that will 
> detail
> all reviews/goals/test/appointments for each 'specialty' plan and have the
> ability to coordinate the components to suit the best interests of the 
> patient as
> a whole - a care plan for the patient, not just one per problem.
> >
> > The patient or the parent/caregiver will also benefit with being able to
> schedule appointments/tests etc.
> >
> > And we will need to be able to break down that master care plan to see which
> components belong with each problem, or are shared between problems, and
> for context-based sharing with other health care providers.
> >
> 
> 
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