OpenEHR is not a standard, it is a formal specification. http://www.iso.org/iso/home/standards.htm ISO, What is a standard:
"A standard is a document that provides requirements, specifications, guidelines or characteristics that can be used consistently to ensure that materials, products, processes and services are fit for their purpose." On 24-10-14 19:20, pablo pazos wrote: > Thanks for your message Stefan. > > I understand the organizational time does not accompanies the time of > the community needs. > > For me is very odd that in one hand the Foundation wants to spread the > standard but in the other do not endorse anyone on the training side. > > Educators & trainers want to spread the standard also, and sometimes > just saying "the foundation supports us" and have a web page with our > name as "endorsed trainers" allows us to access places that we can't > access alone, like government working groups. And training people in > government is a great way of having the standard included in call for > proposals for projects, and that leads to the industry to catch up. > Then the industry will need people to work in delivering tools that > implements the standard, and that people needs training, and so on. > *We can create this virtuous circle but we need help.* > > For me, training is the best way of spreading the standard and for the > openEHR-ES community that seem to work for the last 4 years that I'm > giving the course in spanish. And others follow, like the openEHR-BR > community, some of them were my students now they have their own > openEHR course in portuguese (awesome!). > > > I'm not sure what's the formal way of putting these issues under the > consideration of the board(s) and get any feedback from them. > > -- > Kind regards, > Eng. Pablo Pazos Guti?rrez > http://cabolabs.com <http://cabolabs.com/es/home> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 09:52:22 +0200 > From: sauermann at technikum-wien.at > To: openehr-clinical at lists.openehr.org > CC: pazospablo at hotmail.com; openehr-technical at lists.openehr.org; > openehr-implementers at lists.openehr.org > Subject: Re: MedInfo 2015 openEHR tutorials > > Dear Pablo! > Within IHE wee seem to have a similar situation, "educators" working > along providing training, trying to expain to the "institutional > layer", asking the institution to take formal measures, so that > training and probably even exams and certification are harmonised > across subgroups and regions. Over the years something has sunk in, > and we may see an IHE "Education" group sometime soon. This however > took some years until both educators and "institutional layers" knew > why and how they might benefit from each other. > In that way I can understand your experience > So: There seems to be independent multi-site evidence that "education" > is a "political" issue. > > This may help or not, let us all keep the spirit high! > Greetings from Vienna, > Stefan > Stefan Sauermann > > Program Director > Biomedical Engineering Sciences (Master) > > University of Applied Sciences Technikum Wien > Hoechstaedtplatz 5, 1200 Vienna, Austria > P: +43 1 333 40 77 - 988 > M: +43 664 6192555 > E:stefan.sauermann at technikum-wien.at <mailto:stefan.sauermann at > technikum-wien.at> > > I:www.technikum-wien.at/mbe <http://www.technikum-wien.at/mbe> > I:www.technikum-wien.at/ibmt <http://www.technikum-wien.at/ibmt> > I:www.healthy-interoperability.at <http://www.healthy-interoperability.at> > Am 23.10.2014 09:27, schrieb pablo pazos: > > Hi Sam, > > I think we are coordinating this already :) IMO that's the point > of having the wiki pages and asking colleagues to add content, > proposals and comments. > > I think the idea of a key note is great, and I want to collaborate > in any way I can, but... as you an others may know, I asked > several times for endorsement and support (not talking about > money) from the foundation on the training side, to standardize > the contents, to have a formal way of certification, and spread > the standard, but the board went silent. I'm very pragmatic and I > don't know why this is so difficult, for me this is treated in a > very political way and should be something technical. > > With that being said, for me, talking about training under the > foundation banner is at least weird. > > Maybe this is not a good place or time to mention this, but is how > I honestly feel about the proposal. > > I long to see the work I try to do to create awareness about the > standard to be supported by the foundation. To be honest, the only > support I got is from the Chilean Association of Healthcare > Informatics (ACHISA) with whom I'm very thankful because without > them I wouldn't be able to create the first online course 100% > about openEHR in spanish and provide it to more than 140 people > from 15 countries. > > > -- > Kind regards, > Eng. Pablo Pazos Guti?rrez > http://cabolabs.com <http://cabolabs.com/es/home> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From: sam.heard at openehrfoundation.org > <mailto:sam.heard at openehrfoundation.org> > To: openehr-clinical at lists.openehr.org > <mailto:openehr-clinical at lists.openehr.org> > Subject: Re: MedInfo 2015 openEHR tutorials > Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 05:48:00 +0000 > CC: openehr-technical at lists.openehr.org > <mailto:openehr-technical at lists.openehr.org>; > openehr-implementers at lists.openehr.org > <mailto:openehr-implementers at lists.openehr.org> > > Hi All > > It would be good to coordinate this and try and get a full range > of options available - clinical and technical. > Clearly there are a few people who have already done work in South > America who might want to coordinate. > > I would hope that we may be able to get a key note if we are able > to promote this idea. Perhaps a group of speakers on what they are > doing with openEHR under the Foundation banner. > > I am very interested to know who will be attending and would like > to present on any openEHR activity. I am happy to coordinate and > make this list available to anyone interested. > > sam.heard at openehrfoundation.org > <mailto:sam.heard at openehrfoundation.org> > > Cheers, Sam > > *From:* Shinji KOBAYASHI <mailto:skoba at moss.gr.jp> > *Sent:* ?Wednesday?, ?22? ?October? ?2014 ?12?:?46? ?AM > *To:* For openEHR clinical discussions > <mailto:openehr-clinical at lists.openehr.org> > *Cc:* For openEHR technical discussions > <mailto:openehr-technical at lists.openehr.org>, For openEHR > implementation discussions > <mailto:openehr-implementers at lists.openehr.org> > > Hi Pablo, and all > > Thank you for cooperation. I am working on the developers' workshop > proposal based on the last proposal to MEDINFO2013. Please modify and > add your description for your project. > The Spanish tutorial sounds muy bien. > > Shinji > > > 2014-10-21 23:06 GMT+09:00 pablo pazos <pazospablo at hotmail.com> > <mailto:pazospablo at hotmail.com>: > > Hi! > > > > I was about to send a message to the lists to coordinate the > tutorials > > topics to minimize overlap. > > > > Thanks for creating the page Shinji! That will help a lot for > doing that > > coordination. > > > > I'll add a list of topics and anyone can mark his/her preference > for giving > > a tutorial about it, so we can detect collisions. > > > > > > For the spanish speakers, the MedInfo organization wants to have > some > > tutorials in spanish to encourage the LatAm community to > participate in the > > conference. Also until december they have a preferential price > for LatAm > > colleagues (still pricey but it's MedInfo :). > > > > > > Cheers, > > Pablo. > > > > > > -- > > Kind regards, > > Eng. Pablo Pazos Guti?rrez > > http://cabolabs.com > > > >> From: skoba at moss.gr.jp <mailto:skoba at moss.gr.jp> > >> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 22:56:46 +0900 > >> Subject: Re: MedInfo 2015 openEHR tutorials > >> To: openehr-technical at lists.openehr.org > <mailto:openehr-technical at lists.openehr.org> > >> CC: openehr-implementers at lists.openehr.org > <mailto:openehr-implementers at lists.openehr.org>; > >> openehr-clinical at lists.openehr.org > <mailto:openehr-clinical at lists.openehr.org> > > > >> > >> Dear colleagues, > >> > >> I updated Wiki description about MEDINFO 2015 and made the > developers' > >> workshop 2015 page. > >> http://www.openehr.org/wiki/display/resources/MEDINFO+2015 > >> > >> Could you all please take a look and add comments or describe > your plan? > >> > >> > >> Shinji KOBAYASHI > >> > >> 2014-08-05 10:22 GMT+09:00 pablo pazos <pazospablo at hotmail.com> > <mailto:pazospablo at hotmail.com>: > >> > Of course! I should have think of Jussara before. I'll talk > with her and > >> > her > >> > fellow openEHR.br colleagues to see if we can get this organized. > >> > > >> > BTW, just to start the coordination I would like to do a workshop > >> > focused on > >> > openEHR data store and query. And if there's interest, > another one > >> > focused > >> > on UI: generation, manipulation, processing, models, etc. (we're > >> > presenting > >> > a paper on this topic at the InfoLac congress, this year is > in Uruguay! > >> > lucky me: http://infolac2014.org/index.php/en/) > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Kind regards, > >> > Eng. Pablo Pazos Guti?rrez > >> > http://cabolabs.com > >> > > >> > ________________________________ > >> > From: sam.heard at oceaninformatics.com > <mailto:sam.heard at oceaninformatics.com> > >> > To: openehr-clinical at lists.openehr.org > <mailto:openehr-clinical at lists.openehr.org>; > >> > openehr-technical at lists.openehr.org > <mailto:openehr-technical at lists.openehr.org> > >> > Subject: Re: MedInfo 2015 openEHR tutorials > >> > Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 08:30:32 +0000 > >> > CC: openehr-implementers at lists.openehr.org > <mailto:openehr-implementers at lists.openehr.org> > >> > > >> > > >> > Hi Pablo > >> > > >> > I wonder if Jusara could organise a submeeting in an > academic/industry > >> > forum > >> > prior to MedInfo? > >> > > >> > Cheers Sam > >> > > >> > Sent from Windows Mail > >> > > >> > From: pablo pazos > >> > Sent: ?Saturday?, ?2? ?August? ?2014 ?9?:?06? ?AM > >> > To: For openEHR clinical discussions, For openEHR technical > discussions > >> > Cc: For openEHR implementation discussions > >> > > >> > Thanks for the info Heather! > >> > > >> > I think we should do something similar to the previous > workshops for > >> > devs, > >> > something simple to get newcomers to understand how to work with > >> > archetypes > >> > in software (parsing, processing, validating data, extracting > paths, > >> > etc), > >> > and more specific topics for skilled openEHR devs > (persistence options, > >> > REST > >> > APIs, querying, reporting, UI generation, ...). > >> > > >> > I would love to see a hands-on tutorial in which we can > program live and > >> > help newcomers to pass the first barrier in openEHR software > >> > development: > >> > lose the fear of archetypes. > >> > > >> > Also I would like to know how we want to present this, should > we submit > >> > the > >> > proposals individualy and then organize or should we > coordinate and make > >> > one > >> > proposal with all the workshops/tutorials? > >> > > >> > Thanks! > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Kind regards, > >> > Eng. Pablo Pazos Guti?rrez > >> > http://cabolabs.com > >> > > >> > ________________________________ > >> > From: heather.leslie at oceaninformatics.com > <mailto:heather.leslie at oceaninformatics.com> > >> > To: openehr-technical at lists.openehr.org > <mailto:openehr-technical at lists.openehr.org>; > >> > openehr-clinical at lists.openehr.org > <mailto:openehr-clinical at lists.openehr.org> > >> > Subject: RE: MedInfo 2015 openEHR tutorials > >> > Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2014 01:54:59 +0000 > >> > CC: openehr-implementers at lists.openehr.org > <mailto:openehr-implementers at lists.openehr.org> > >> > > >> > Hi Pablo, > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > We have kept info on Conferences in the wiki: > >> > http://www.openehr.org/wiki/display/resources/Conferences > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > See Medinfo 2013: > >> > > >> > > > http://www.openehr.org/wiki/display/resources/MEDINFO+2013+-+Copenhagen,+Denmark > > <http://www.openehr.org/wiki/display/resources/MEDINFO+2013+-+Copenhagen%2c+Denmark>. > >> > 2 half day sessions were held then ? one clinical modelling > focussed and > >> > the > >> > other technical > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Regards > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Heather > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > From: openEHR-technical > >> > [mailto:openehr-technical-bounces at lists.openehr.org] > >> > On Behalf Of pablo pazos > >> > Sent: Friday, 1 August 2014 12:14 AM > >> > To: openeh technical; openEHR Clinical > >> > Cc: openehr implementers > >> > Subject: RE: MedInfo 2015 openEHR tutorials > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Hi Shinji! > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > By chance, do you have the agendas of the previous openEHR > developer's > >> > workshops? > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > It would be nice to see what has been done, do a little bit of > >> > introduction > >> > workshops for beginners and do some new cool stuff for > skilled openEHR > >> > devs. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > BTW, maybe a good place to coordinate and share info about > ideas would > >> > be > >> > the openEHR wiki. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Thanks! > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Kind regards, > >> > Eng. Pablo Pazos Guti?rrez > >> > http://cabolabs.com > >> > > >> > ________________________________ > >> > > >> > From: skoba at moss.gr.jp <mailto:skoba at moss.gr.jp> > >> > Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 10:25:16 +0900 > >> > Subject: Re: MedInfo 2015 openEHR tutorials > >> > To: openehr-clinical at lists.openehr.org > <mailto:openehr-clinical at lists.openehr.org> > >> > CC: openehr-technical at lists.openehr.org > <mailto:openehr-technical at lists.openehr.org>; > >> > openehr-implementers at lists.openehr.org > <mailto:openehr-implementers at lists.openehr.org> > >> > > >> > Hi Pablo and all, > >> > > >> > We had developers' workshop at Medinfo2007, 2010 and 2013, and I > >> > organized > >> > developers' workshop 2010, and 2013. > >> > > >> > I think the combination of clinical workshop/tutorial half > day and > >> > developers' workshop half day would be better. > >> > > >> > I have to write up until the tutorial/workshop dead line, 15 > Jan, 2015. > >> > > >> > Shinji KOBAYASHI > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > 2014-07-29 13:52 GMT+09:00 pablo pazos > <pazospablo at hotmail.com> <mailto:pazospablo at hotmail.com>: > >> > > >> > Hi all! > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Since next MedInfo is in Brazil (near Uruguay) I'll be > attending for > >> > sure. I > >> > also might present a paper or two and want to propose an > openEHR related > >> > tutorial. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Is other people planning to present openEHR papers or > tutorials? It > >> > would be > >> > great if we can coordinate tutorials (and topics) together so > we can > >> > have > >> > our "openEHR day" at MedInfo. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > What do you think? > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > We have 1 year to plan this, and that's not a lot of time! > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > I hope we can join forces and do something nice for the south > american > >> > openEHR community. We are eager to learn from others that > already have > >> > openEHR working in the real world, and learn from their > success and > >> > failures. > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Kind regards, > >> > Eng. 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