Hi Erik,
just took a look at it: that's some seriously amazing stuff! Editing
archetypes by using Mindmaps is really a great idea. Thanks to all
participants for making it happen!
Best,
Birger
Am 22.08.2015 um 18:10 schrieb Erik Sundvall:
And now some ADL 2.0-related news: as of yesterday you can explore the
ADL 2.0 capable developer-pre-release of the openEHR web based
archetype- and template-editors (templates can also be exported to OPT
1.4)
Have a look at the presentation from Medinfo yesterday:
https://goo.gl/7Cd52R
When the web-client source code has been moved to the right place,
we'll post info to the lists.
Best regards,
Erik Sundvall
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On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 9:30 AM, Bert Verhees <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Thanks Thomas, for the clarification. Very useful.
Bert
Op 13 aug. 2015 06:26 schreef "Thomas Beale"
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>:
Dave,
I'll try to answer a few.
Firstly, please treat the active specifications as what you
find by going to the home page 'Specifications' button (top
left), i.e. the HTML specs here
<http://www.openehr.org/programs/specification/releases/currentbaseline#ADL2>.
Second point, 'ADL 1.5' was what we used for a long time as
the moniker for 'next generation ADL', until we realised that
we introduced breaking changes due to CIMI, OMG/AML and
openEHR development work. So 'ADL / AOM 2' is the 'modern'
archetype formalism.
We never released any interim version, although some people
think we should, as per this page
<https://openehr.atlassian.net/wiki/display/ADL/ADL+1.4+Migration+Roadmap>.
The ADL / AOM 2 specs referred to above are not yet quite
complete - there are a few more additions to the documents,
and 2 very minor potential semantic changes - semantic slots
and smarter annotations. I would expect these specs to be
ready for release formal TRIAL in the next 4 weeks.
Why does ADL2/AOM2 exist? It addresses various limitations in
ADL1.4, including lack of proper modelling for specialisation,
templating, proper versioning and id rules, and proper value
sets. A full list is here
<https://openehr.atlassian.net/wiki/display/ADL/Evolution+from+ADL+1.4>.
The ADL Workbench
<http://www.openehr.org/downloads/ADLworkbench/home>will
reliably (in most cases) convert ADL 1.4 archetypes to ADL 2
form. This transform is not trivial, so anyone who wants to do
this conversion should use this tool, or the command line
version.
CIMI is using only ADL/AOM 2, and CIMI will become a working
group of some kind in HL7 (agreed but not finalised yet), so
HL7 will potentially use ADL 2 at some point (but I assume jut
the CIMI workgroup for some time).
ADL/AOM2 is the basis for the OMG Archetype Modelling Language
(AML) specification, which has entered the standards track a
few months ago.
On the ground in openEHR implementation space, ADL 1.4 is
being used. New tools that are internally ADL 2 will / do
generate ADL 1.4 OPTs to enable these systems to keep running.
The ADL Workbench doesn't yet do this but will.
There is an XML Schema for ADL / AOM 2 here
<https://github.com/openEHR/specifications/tree/master/ITS/AOM2/XML-schema>,
also reachable from the current specifications page
<http://www.openehr.org/programs/specification/releases/currentbaseline>.
The tougher question to answer is when systems will move to
ADL 2. THere are two questions: EHR systems, and tools. Tools
can move faster, and are already being changed. CKM also
incorporates some ADL 2 features already. EHR systems will
move more slowly and carefully for obvious reasons, which is
why we need ADL 1.4 OPT support in next gen tools. I would
expect some vendors to eventually support ADL 1.4 and ADL2,
and existing ADL 1.4 based deployments may stay on ADL 1.4.
- thomas
On 12/08/2015 04:32, Barnet David (HEALTH AND SOCIAL CARE
INFORMATION CENTRE) wrote:
All
Hope everyone is well.
I have a few questions on ADL versions
Is there a general view as to when archetypes will be created
in an ADL version other than version 1.4?
I’ve sampled CKMs from various countries & found all
archetypes (that I sampled) were in the ADL 1.4 format.
Some questions:
Is anyone planning to use anything other than ADL 1.4 in the
near future?
How will CKMs cope with multiple ADL versions in a single CKM?
When will tools be available to create archetypes in 1.5 and 2.0?
How will the export format change from ADL 1.4 to 1.5 and 2.0?
Will I be able to import an archetype in 1.5 or 2.0 into my CKM?
Is there an XML schema available for 1.5 and 2.0?
When do we expect archetypes in 1.5 & 2.0 to be the norm?
What’s the driver to move to archetypes created to DL version
1.5 or 2.0?
Are all the answers in the published document
http://www.openehr.org/releases/trunk/architecture/am/adl2.pdf ?
Regards
Dave Barnet
Health and Social Care Information Centre
NHS England, UK
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