On Tue, 2021-11-09 at 18:14 +0100, Quentin Schulz wrote:
> Hi Richard,
> 
> On November 9, 2021 4:15:16 PM GMT+01:00, Richard Purdie 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Hi All,
> > 
> > I shared a patch on the bitbake mailing list to make some syntax generate
> > warnings, specifically things of the form:
> > 
> > XXX_append += "YYY"
> > XXX_prepend += "YYY"
> > XXX_remove += "YYY"
> > 
> 
> Using the old syntax :D?

Er, yes. What was I thinking exactly? :)

Anyway, you all knew what I meant!

> 
> > and the ?=, =+, .= and =. variants. This also covers variants with 
> > overrides in
> > there too. It would basically mean that you need to use "=" with the append
> > operator and friends.
> > 
> > We found one reference of that use in OE-Core and one in meta-intel. There 
> > are
> > others in other layers but the usage isn't that widespread.
> > 
> > Why should we warn against this? The += usage in particular is sometimes 
> > used to
> > add a space so:
> > 
> > XXX_append += "YYY"
> > 
> > and
> > 
> > XXX_append = " YYY"
> > 
> > are equivalent but this is more of an accident rather than a specific 
> > bitbake
> > design. It is extremely confusing to new users and has been complained about
> > before as an issue effecting usability. New users often think that += will 
> > stack
> > the append strings much like += does on a normal variable but that is not 
> > the
> > case and can lead to confusion.
> > 
> > I'm been looking at ways we can simplify without hurting functionality and
> > having this slightly obscure usage doesn't really seem to help much. If we 
> > agree
> > to do this, I would make it an error in due course after users have seen the
> > warnings for a while. I'd probably want to do that before the LTS next year.
> > 
> 
> I'm all for removing potential areas of confusion, so +1.
> 
> On that topic, if I'm not mistaken, the same applies to:
> 
> FOO:.*{append, prepend, remove}:.*{append,prepend,remove}
> ? Basically it does not make much sense to have (any) two of append, prepend,
> remove as overrides of the same variable (on the same line).

I think anything with two or more such operators should just error as that has
never been supported and shouldn't/couldn't do much that was useful. I'd just
make that a hard error now.

Cheers,

Richard






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