On 1/6/12 10:43 AM, Koen Kooi wrote:

Op 6 jan. 2012, om 17:16 heeft Richard Purdie het volgende geschreven:

On Fri, 2012-01-06 at 09:04 -0700, Chris Larson wrote:
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 8:59 AM, Mark Hatle<[email protected]>  wrote:
On 1/6/12 4:34 AM, Koen Kooi wrote:


Op 6 jan. 2012, om 11:09 heeft Martin Jansa het volgende geschreven:

FWIW today I've noticed that systemd is going other way around
http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/separate-usr-is-broken


And http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/UsrMove

I guess it's time to publish my angstrom branch doing that after the
holidays :)


I respectfully disagree with both of the above URLs.

The root partition is still very useful as a "small" set of applications and
libraries required for booting.

Most systems these days contain a combined root and usr partition, which is
fine.  However, there are a lot of systems that I've worked on in the past
and I expect in the future that, root being a small R/O system is necessary.

initramfs can solve some problems, but introduces other issues.  Many of the
systems I've worked on simple don't have enough flash to be able to store
the bootloader, kernel and an initramfs [as well as other system items
required by the devices].  In this case a base rootfs makes the most sense.

In my opinion, what's proposed in the two links is a good thing even
for embedded. Not that we'd use that structure necessarily, but
removing the usr vs non-usr separation for binaries and libs is a good
thing regardless. Putting /usr in the rootfs still would still work
fine, or you could drop usr entirely and move everything to / the way
micro does.

The nice thing is we have a system which can actually support the
different options relatively easily and without much conflict.

Except that things like fs-perms.txt store hardcoded values :(

Yes "hard coded values" that include expandable variables:

# Documentation should always be corrected
${mandir}               0755    root    root    true    0644    root    root
${infodir}              0755    root    root    true    0644    root    root
${docdir}               0755    root    root    true    0644    root    root

etc..

The format of this file was specifically setup to allow for people to adjust the value of the exec_prefix, libdir, etc as necessary without having to change the default fs-perms.txt. (Also keep in mind the expectation for distributions to add their own locations when necessary.)

--Mark

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