On 6/4/22 16:55, Khem Raj wrote:


On Sat, Jun 4, 2022 at 6:23 AM Richard Purdie <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    On Sat, 2022-06-04 at 13:36 +0100, Richard Purdie via
    lists.yoctoproject.org <http://lists.yoctoproject.org> wrote:
     > On Sat, 2022-06-04 at 13:51 +0200, Alexander Kanavin wrote:
     > > Here's something I didn't think of before. Has this occurred
    anywhere
     > > else except Ubuntu 18.04?
     >
     > https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14096
    <https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14096>
     >
     > I'm struggling to get the data out from the old builds, one mentions
     > ubuntu1604, there is an ubuntu1804 on both x86 and arm hosts.
     >
     > It is possible this is an ubuntu specific make issue or a make bug.

    Ubuntu 18.04 uses make 4.1 which is old (Oct 2014).

    I noticed these patches from 2016:

    
https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/make.git/commit/?id=9bb994e8319c2b153cd3d6d61e2c2882895e7c3a
    
<https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/make.git/commit/?id=9bb994e8319c2b153cd3d6d61e2c2882895e7c3a>
    
https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/make.git/commit/?id=4762480ae9cb8df4878286411f178d32db14eff0
    
<https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/make.git/commit/?id=4762480ae9cb8df4878286411f178d32db14eff0>

    I think we may want to mandate a modern make for both this class of
    issues and also perhaps for better loadavg support to keep load under
    control on the autobuilders.

    I'm torn, on the one hand we need to test the distros people use, on
    the other we do need to remove sources of intermittent issues. I think
    this bug must be some issue with make itself.

    Adding a make-native dependency to perl would "hurt" people on modern
    distros...


Make perhaps does not have many complex dependency needs so it might not be as bad


My master build is already building make-native due to a dependency from glibc, since 2018:

https://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core/commit/?id=0cd89e4af625941f8ab8c033f72f900a2979b304

Don't know if that dependency is still valid though.

Jacob
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