Hi, all ... Having been in the software industry for many years I have to concur with Josef. Credibility is the one asset that everyone should strive for and it has to be built as a never-ending effort. Of course that software quality is paramount but it is not accompanied by a coherent eco-environment it may become a moot issue. OpenERP is competing against very powerful contenders and all of them can -and will- use every single tool in their arsenal to belittle our product. We should not give them additional ammunition at least. A constantly moving release date looks amateurish and gives a sense of lack of guidance, one of the main elements used by the MS or Oracle´s of the world to battle open source and community efforts. (But -to be frank- many proprietary software company miss their dates, too) So it is best to be a bit more conservative rather than overly aggressive in the setting of dates, investing the necessary resources to make them realistic. And then to keep them. I rest my case.
Luis Panozzo (Lp) Technology Manager Elmatica AS [email protected] On 9 July 2014 10:37, Josef Kaser <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, > > > > OK, thanks for pointing this out, but I don’t agree. July 7th was > announced as the official release date of v8. Nobody, neither Fabien nor > Antony or anyone else, did mention this release to be a RC or a > pre-release. An official release is an official release, not a RC. So far > for the dogmatic part… > > > > It would be no problem if there would be a roadmap with the release dates > for RC[1..x] and for the official release, and if the roadmap’s deadlines > would be met. > > > > Please see it from the partners’ and from the customers’ perspective: > > > > - partners may lose potential (and maybe even existing) > customers because they (the partners) relied on the announced release date > > - customers, especially in the targeted SME market, want to have > confidence in their software vendors; if they don’t have they will look for > alternatives, and then they are lost for odoo for the next five to ten years > > > > Of course it is one of the most important things to deliver a stable and > feature rich software. But it is not good if there are being raised > expectations that are not being fulfilled in the end. > > > > Just my 2 cents… > > > > Regards > > Josef > > > > > > -- > > Dipl.-Wirt.-Inf. (FH) > > Josef Kaser > > BUSINESS SOLUTIONS > > Consultant > > > > inoX-tech GmbH > > Gutenbergstr. 8 > > 94036 Passau > > > > Tel: +49 851 987 797 68 > > Fax: +49 851 987 797 99 > > > > Email: [email protected] > > Web: http://www.inoX-tech.de > > > > Registergericht Passau, HRB 6539, Ust-ID: DE814925313 > > Geschäftsführung: Michael Döderlein > > > > > > > > *Von:* Nhomar Hernández [mailto:[email protected]] > *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 8. Juli 2014 20:01 > *An:* Raphael Valyi > *Cc:* Josef Kaser; openerp-community > *Betreff:* Re: [Openerp-community] new api, v8 release > > > > > > 2014-07-08 12:37 GMT-04:30 Raphael Valyi <[email protected]>: > > So I would say, please let's don't be dogmatic about a release date. It's > bad to be 6 months late on release schedule (as it was for v7 initially > announced much earlier), but it's much better to be a little late and have > early adopter test deeply and report bugs and contribute fixes before > freezing things for 18 months. So please no pressure to release exactly on > date. Some good complex projects do 6 RC's before declaring something > stable and there is no magic, unless you have a test coverage of 100% with > very clear specifications (which we don't have), it's about the only way to > have something both "stable" and usable for later. > > > Agreed 100% with Raph. > > > > - This release can be seen as "RC-2" for v8.0 (the merge of new API). > > - I hope we can test the new API too making some migrations of our own > modules to avoid what we live in v5 (do you remember, bad views parsing, > incomplete orm, slow property fields and so on?, new incomplete fetures). > > > > Then KUDOS for thsi pre-release, and for the tag for us it is excellent > (at least for me) ;-) > > > > Regards. > > > > -- > -------------------- > Saludos Cordiales > > Nhomar G. Hernandez M. > +58-414-4110269 > Skype: nhomar00 > Web-Blog: http://geronimo.com.ve > Servicios IT: http://vauxoo.com > Linux-Counter: 467724 > Correos: > [email protected] > [email protected] > twitter @nhomar > > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community > Post to : [email protected] > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > >
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