Hi Heming,

Some comments inline.

Regards
KK

On 10 May 2012 09:18, Heming Wen <heming....@mail.mcgill.ca> wrote:
> Hi KK,
>
> In terms of physical hardware, I believe we have the exact same set of 
> hardware mentioned in the Stanford OpenRoads testbed. We are using PC Engine 
> AP and Pronto 3290 switches with Indigo installed. Right now, a controller VM 
> is running on a PC workstation connected to the management port of the Pronto 
> switch. Using simple pyswitch.py controller to detect devices, a successful 
> connection has been established between the switch and the controller.
>
> When you say "make sure the controller is also accessible to the AP on the 
> datapath", I am not extremely sure about the approach I should take. Do you 
> mean using a second switch (a smaller one, D-Link desktop switch for 
> instance) to connect the control port of the switch, the port of the Pc 
> workstation controller and the switching plane of the switch (on which the AP 
> is attached) together?

This should work in theory.  I assume Indigo allows this.  Dan should
be able to comment on this. It is setting up an out-of-band control
network.

> Or do you mean by having an extra network card installed on the controller PC 
> in order to be connected to both the control port of the switch and the 
> switching plane (using two subnets).

Yes, this is what Dan was describing and we have done this before.
With a NEC though.

> Or are you referring to something else entirely? Is it possible for us to use 
> the same approach you used in your setup so we can recreate it?

We had this setup in various forms over time, using different switches
and APs.  There isn't a "particularly right" way to do this.  It all
depends on the equipment you have at hand and what you are trying to
do.

>
> Sorry for asking so many questions at once as I am still relatively new with 
> networking in general.
>
> Thank you for your swift response and support.
>
> Heming
> ________________________________________
> From: yap...@gmail.com [yap...@gmail.com] on behalf of kk yap 
> [yap...@stanford.edu]
> Sent: May 9, 2012 22:19
> To: Heming Wen
> Cc: Dan Talayco; openflow-discuss@lists.stanford.edu
> Subject: Re: [openflow-discuss] OpenRoads controller link with PC Engine AP
>
> Hi Heming,
>
> One way is to have only the AP in inband mode.  Get your switch to the
> controller, then make sure the controller is also accessible to the AP
> on the datapath.  We have had such a setup before.  It should work.
>
> Regards
> KK
>
> On 9 May 2012 18:42, Heming Wen <heming....@mail.mcgill.ca> wrote:
>> Hi Dan,
>>
>> Actually, I was wondering about how the OpenRoads deployment was setup. I 
>> thought the APs were attached to the OpenFlow switches? Or are they not 
>> Pronto switches? In other words, how is the OpenRoads controller setup in 
>> order to control both the switches and the AP at the same time?
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Heming
>> ________________________________________
>> From: Dan Talayco [dan.tala...@bigswitch.com] on behalf of Dan Talayco 
>> [dtala...@stanford.edu]
>> Sent: May 9, 2012 18:00
>> To: Heming Wen
>> Cc: openflow-discuss@lists.stanford.edu
>> Subject: Re: [openflow-discuss] OpenRoads controller link with PC Engine AP
>>
>> I believe you're basically asking the switch to route (or at least switch) 
>> between the management port and the dataplane.  The short answer is that the 
>> switch won't do this and it's not planned to be supported.
>>
>> You probably want "physical in-band management" where the Pronto switch is 
>> managed by a connection accessed through a data plane port.  This feature is 
>> not yet fully supported on the Pronto platforms, although some people are 
>> working with it now.  Note that although physically on a dataplane port, the 
>> connection may still be logically separated from the OpenFlow controlled 
>> traffic.
>>
>> If you take this approach (of physical in-band) would you expect to be able 
>> to dedicate a VLAN to management (including the controller traffic)?  The 
>> alternative is to have OpenFlow controlling the traffic to the controller, 
>> something that has enough pitfalls that no one has really gotten it to work 
>> reliably.
>>
>> -Dan
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 9, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Heming Wen wrote:
>>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> We are currently setting up a basic Openflow Wireless testbed with three PC 
>> Engine AP and a Pronto 3290 switch in our labs. We have a few questions 
>> regarding the connection between the elements:
>>
>> 1) There are three controller path setups possible: L3 inband, tunneling and 
>> L2 inband. If we want to setup a small demo (n-casting for instance), is 
>> there a preference for a particular configuration?
>>
>> 2) How must the Openflow controller connected to the network in order to 
>> control the AP? Right now, the openflow controller is connected to the 
>> special ethernet port of the Pronto switch (in order to control the switch). 
>> The default pyswitch controller can detect the Indigo/Pronto switch. 
>> However, the AP is connected to the switching plane of the Pronto switch. Is 
>> there a way to access the switching plane ports from the control port or 
>> must the controller be connected in a different fashion? Right now, pinging 
>> doesn't work between the switching plane and the control plane.
>>
>> Thank you for your help,
>>
>> Heming
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