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 >Gunther Schadow wrote:
 >>"Alvin B. Marcelo" wrote:
 >>> VistA, Java, Eiffel, GEHR, USAM, C++, C, Python.....
 >>>
 >>> I see CORBAmed/CORBA as the least common denominator in all
 >these.......it
 >>> does not preclude any of the above and falls within our definition of
 >"open
 >>> source" (or does it? -- Dave F?)
 >>>
 >>> Is it alright for us therefore to focus our sights on CORBAmed since it
 >is
 >>> the most neutral of all the "models" set forward.
 >>
 >>I disagree very much. I do not want to cause any unnecessary violence
 >>here, but the conclusion CORBAmed is the neutral way to go is not
 >>founded. CORBAmed's COAS is not independent or any more general than
 >>GEHR or HL7 v3/USAM. CORBAmed comes with a specific model on observations
 >>etc.,  just like HL7 and GEHR. So, deciding on anything between these
 >>three is preemptive, and, I think pretty useless.
 >
 >I think that Gunther's remarks here confirm my general impression of the
 >activity on this list. People representing a number of distinct open source
 >projects (Gunther, David, and Thomas to name just a few) are talking about
 >their projects and approaches to the development of open source software
and
 >beginning to forge some common ground of understanding. I personally find
 >this to be enlightening and worthwhile and it might even result in
 >something useful to me, eventually.
 >
 >However, I think the domain of interest is too large and complex and the
 >level of understanding and experience represented is too varied for these
to
 >easily come together in the near future on a useful least common
 >denominator.
 >
 >I think this list serves a useful function as a rather loose umbrella
 >primarily aimed at fostering the common understanding of the domain and
 >inclusive to all the different projects and approaches. It would be greatly
 >diminished if it were to focus exclusively on a single project.
 >
 >>The fact that you can half-way map between any models is
 >>always touted by CORBAmed people as the big advantage of CORBAmed
 >>specs. But it is a pointless half-truth, and I resent this strategy
 >>of CORBAmed advertizing for creating exactly the notion that Alvin
 >>recites here. I have been silent to David Forslund's continuing blowing
 >>the marketing horn for CORBAmed here since I don't see a way to stop
 >>this by argument. I guess I don't know what this list or the OSHCA
 >>thing will do anyway, but I'm not gonna waste time to cheer CORBAmed
 >>and COAS.
 >>
 >>For the 100th time I'd like to point out that CORBA and CORBAmed are
 >>*not* the same thing, and that I like CORBA technology very much, but
 >>I disagree on a lot of the healthcare domain work that CORBAmed has been
 >>done. The CORBAmed model would belong on the same examination table
 >>that we put GEHR and HL7 v3 on, but CORBAmed folks continuously step
 >>aside from this examination by claiming that CORBAmed is independent
 >>from the information model, it is not!
 >>
 >>regards and happy millenium!
 >>-Gunther
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