Jim,
This must be a mistake. Try again. Minoru is managing the list. Jospeh
dalMolin should know what happened.
Hope to get you back.
alvin
On Tue, 28 Dec 1999, Jim Self wrote:
> Gunther, et al,
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> >Gunther Schadow wrote:
> >>"Alvin B. Marcelo" wrote:
> >>> VistA, Java, Eiffel, GEHR, USAM, C++, C, Python.....
> >>>
> >>> I see CORBAmed/CORBA as the least common denominator in all
> >these.......it
> >>> does not preclude any of the above and falls within our definition of
> >"open
> >>> source" (or does it? -- Dave F?)
> >>>
> >>> Is it alright for us therefore to focus our sights on CORBAmed since it
> >is
> >>> the most neutral of all the "models" set forward.
> >>
> >>I disagree very much. I do not want to cause any unnecessary violence
> >>here, but the conclusion CORBAmed is the neutral way to go is not
> >>founded. CORBAmed's COAS is not independent or any more general than
> >>GEHR or HL7 v3/USAM. CORBAmed comes with a specific model on observations
> >>etc., just like HL7 and GEHR. So, deciding on anything between these
> >>three is preemptive, and, I think pretty useless.
> >
> >I think that Gunther's remarks here confirm my general impression of the
> >activity on this list. People representing a number of distinct open source
> >projects (Gunther, David, and Thomas to name just a few) are talking about
> >their projects and approaches to the development of open source software
> and
> >beginning to forge some common ground of understanding. I personally find
> >this to be enlightening and worthwhile and it might even result in
> >something useful to me, eventually.
> >
> >However, I think the domain of interest is too large and complex and the
> >level of understanding and experience represented is too varied for these
> to
> >easily come together in the near future on a useful least common
> >denominator.
> >
> >I think this list serves a useful function as a rather loose umbrella
> >primarily aimed at fostering the common understanding of the domain and
> >inclusive to all the different projects and approaches. It would be greatly
> >diminished if it were to focus exclusively on a single project.
> >
> >>The fact that you can half-way map between any models is
> >>always touted by CORBAmed people as the big advantage of CORBAmed
> >>specs. But it is a pointless half-truth, and I resent this strategy
> >>of CORBAmed advertizing for creating exactly the notion that Alvin
> >>recites here. I have been silent to David Forslund's continuing blowing
> >>the marketing horn for CORBAmed here since I don't see a way to stop
> >>this by argument. I guess I don't know what this list or the OSHCA
> >>thing will do anyway, but I'm not gonna waste time to cheer CORBAmed
> >>and COAS.
> >>
> >>For the 100th time I'd like to point out that CORBA and CORBAmed are
> >>*not* the same thing, and that I like CORBA technology very much, but
> >>I disagree on a lot of the healthcare domain work that CORBAmed has been
> >>done. The CORBAmed model would belong on the same examination table
> >>that we put GEHR and HL7 v3 on, but CORBAmed folks continuously step
> >>aside from this examination by claiming that CORBAmed is independent
> >>from the information model, it is not!
> >>
> >>regards and happy millenium!
> >>-Gunther
> >>
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> Jim Self
> Manager and Chief Developer
> VMTH Computer Services, UC Davis
> (http://www.vmth.ucdavis.edu/us/jaself)
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