On Tue, 01 May 2001 08:28:17   Wayne Wilson wrote:
>Andrew po-jung Ho wrote:
>
>> Since SAP-DB is open source, it will not have the proprietary trigger problems like 
>Oracle.
>
> >
>Don't think that will be the issue.  Exactly how triggers 
>are implemented (open source or not) is the issue.  

Hi Wayne,
  Good point! I have avoided using triggers in the OIO system for that reason, but 
triggers do have performance advantages. Since SAP-DB is now open source, perhaps it 
is more likely to extend its trigger-"compatibility" from Oracle 7 to other databases. 
If nothing else, it may be preferable to be locked into an open source DBMS than a 
proprietary one :-).

>Each 
>database that we have seen does it differently, makes no 
>matter if open source as long as it's different.  Given the 
>impending collapse of the relational database industry (IBM 
>just bought Informix) in just a small number of vendors, 
>unless they can all agree, it remains an issue.  Most of 
>them won't agree because they already have an installed base.

I see. Since SAP-DB is open source, wouldn't also be easier for others to implement 
triggers so that they are compatible with SAP-DB? For example, IBM can incorporate 
SAP-DB code within their next version of DB2 to make DB2 capable of running SAP-DB 
triggers.

>Even using java inside the DBMS execution space is no answer 
>as exactly  how that java is hooked up to the DB varies from 
>implementation to implementation.  For example, Oracle uses 
>PL/SQl to activate java.

Right. 

>Can't comment on SAP-DB for you, the real test is under 
>heavy use over extended periods of time.
>
>1) How stable is it.
>2) How fast is it.
>3) How manageable while running.

Got to try it to know.

>4) What kind of support do you get when the archiving 
>process dies?

How do I test this last one?

Best regards,

Andrew
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Andrew P. Ho, M.D.
OIO: Open Infrastructure for Outcomes
TxOutcome.Org (hosting OIO Library #1)
Assistant Clinical Professor
Department of Psychiatry, Harbor-UCLA Medical Center
University of California, Los Angeles


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