I have been listening in on the end of this debate and finally just had to
make comment <s> so apologies if the questions I have have already been
addressed.... and also for the fact that I have no clue as to who made which
comment in the quotes.... but here goes...

>> > Printed form is interesting.
>> 
>> I was being a bit flipant about the "printed" form comment. <s> I 
>> would shudder to think we should repeat what they currently do in the >>
UK.

Just what is wrong with what is happening currently in the UK? From a
primary care perspective it has worked fantastically for over 50 years -
seriously - and at very minimal cost.

It is only now that our secondary & community care colleagues are waking up
to the concept of working together that the world is saying that we have
problems. (BTW we do.... and  can tell you all about them if you really
want!) However, until the population started moving around as much as they
now do the LLoyd George envelope was the perfect solution. All of the health
record for an individiual from cradle to grave was in one place - all
members of a Primary Health Care Team knew where it was and how to access it
and in a lot of practices it was very well summarised, flagged and annotated
which whilst manual... provides the same benefits as such mechanisms in
computerised records.

BTW - If by current - you mean paper based - the vast majority of GPs are no
longer paper based. They have been computerised to a greater or lesser
extent for over 20 years and within the next year should be able to share
records electronically... which resolves the point that most complain about
with regards to UK EHR - which brings me onto my question:

Why are we doing this anyway? The example is always given of being in an
accident, away from home and your care providers needing access to your
record. Well, as somebody who has been in this position I couldn't give ***
as to whether they could access my record at the time - I wanted them to
concentrate on treating me both when I was conscious and unconscious. 

All they needed to know was that I am allergic to many antibiotics and am a
severe asthmatic. I wear that information around my neck and will continue
to do so even if we ever reach such a nirvana as worlwide access to my EHR -
because even if we have immediate access to records anywhere the time needed
to access them is time better spent treating me! So why are we doing this?
Where are the benefits to the patients? To patient outcomes?

Now if we are actually about making cost savings rather than health benefits
- the argument is different....

Just some thoughts...

Nikki

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