On Sat, 2004-02-14 at 09:22, Andrew Ho wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Feb 2004, Tim Churches wrote:
> ...
> > Joseph and I both like the utter simplicity of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > That nicely includes the concepts of discussion, announcements of new
> > projects and releases, events etc
> >
> > Any other reactions, suggestions?
> 
> Tim,
> 
>   Integrating OSHCA with OpenHealth is a wonderful idea that I fully
> support,

Excellent!

>  except for the quagmire that currently surrounds the transfer of
> OSHCA.Org domain to OSHCA's current "interim board".

Herewith the current state of affairs, with apologies for cross-posting:

a) Some time ago (late 2002, early 2003?) a motion was put to the
Openhealth list that OSHCA should seek incorporation as a non-profit
organisation. The rationale was that organising the annual OSHCA
conference would be much easier if there were a formal entity to hold
(audited) funds etc, and that OSHCA could also participate as a
non-governmental organisation in various UN or other fora. A vote was
held and the motion passed.

b) An interim Board of Directors of OSHCA, with members spread over
nearly all the continents, was proposed as a means of bootstrapping the
incorporation process. In the absence of objections, the interim board
comprising Molly Cheah, Wayne Wilson, Adrian Midgley, Tim Cook, Joseph
dal Molin and myself (Tim Churches) convened and began work on
incorporation. Tim Cook subsequently resigned from the interim board.

c) After more than a few false starts and some regrettable but I hope
forgivable inefficiency and delays (we all have day jobs...), all the
necessary paperwork to incorporate as a non-profit in Canada has been
submitted and the necessary fees have been paid - in November or early
Dec 2003. We are now waiting on the Canadian government to process the
application. Usual turn-around is supposed to be 6-8 weeks, so a
response should be imminent.

d) Members of OSHCA will then be invited to register (there was never
any registration process formerly). The parameters of registration will
be discussed on the OSHCA list (with summaries of the discussion posted
to the Openhealth list and the proposed successor list). Registration of
members is unavoidable if OSHCA is a formal entity, since we are obliged
by law to hold elections, annual general meetings, approve the audited
accounts etc, and Canadian law requires that members be registered by
the organisation (as does company law in most countries). Membership of
OSHCA will be open to anyone who agrees with the aims and charter of the
organisation - which are unchanged from those set out at its inception.
There will be no membership fees unless the membership decides to
introduce them at a later date. More likely members will be asked to
make voluntary donations in lieu of membership fees. No fee or donation
will be required for the initial membership registration. 

e) As soon as a reasonable interval has elapsed to allow for
registration of OSHCA members, democratic elections for a Board of
Directors and other office bearers will be held, with all registered
OSHCA members enfranchised to vote.

f) My understanding is that Brian Bray of Minoru Corporation, which
currently holds the oshca.org domain name, has agreed to transfer it to
OSHCA as soon as OSHCA is registered as a formal entity. Reasonably, he
does not want to transfer ownership of the name to an individual.

g) The domain name oshca.net is currently registered to Molly Cheah, and
she has also agreed to transfer ownership of it to OSHCA as soon as
OSHCA is incorporated.

>   With the OSHCA.Net vs. OSHCA.Org fragmentation unresolved, I think it
> would be wise for us to avoid association with OSHCA.Net or OSHCA.Org. Dan
> Johnson already offered to pay $10/year to register a new domain for our
> new List. Please let's keep OpenHealth away from the entangled OSHCA mess.

I don't think that the issue of oshca.org, which is likely to be
resolved shortly as explained above, is a reason to register another
name for the successor to the Openhealth list. Note that Minoru
Corporation holds a trade mark on the Openhealth name, and we are
currently unable to ascertain whether Minoru would be willing to
transfer that trade mark to OSHCA. Hence, it is probably better to avoid
the use of the openhealth name for a successor list.

I still favour [EMAIL PROTECTED] (and later, hopefully,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] as an alias) as the name for the new list. So far
most of the reactions to this on the oh-discuss list have been
favourable, but as Molly pointed out, we need to wait for the sun to
rise at least once in all timezones before making a decision.

-- 

Tim C

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