On Sun, 27 Mar 2004, Tim Cook wrote: > On Sat, 2004-03-27 at 17:26, Karsten Hilbert wrote: > > > You must use EXACTLY the set of pre-requisites that are available in a > > > Debian distribution. For instance....because I use Plone 2.0 I cannot > > > participate because Plone 2.0 is not part of a Debian > > > distribution..... > > You can but Andreas won't help you with it. > > I *can* do anything. But since Andreas is the maintainer of the > Debian-Med project... Sorry, there is no such person like "Maintainer of Debian-Med project". There are maintainers of packages and I'm supporting all people who build Debian packages of free medical software which comply to Debian policy by sponsoring their packages.
> it kind of matters what he decides......in this If this is your impression about my work you should keep in mind that non policy compliant packages will not make their way into Debian. The Debian policy ensures the general quality of Debian and sponsoriung packages makes sure that only packages which work nice with other Debian packages can go in. You are free to ask on the Debian-mentors list if there are other Debian-maintainers who would like to sponsor any package. > case he decided that even though there would be no conflict between the > various Zope Products I use and any others on the Debian-Med platform he > would not package TORCH as a part of Debian Med because it doesn't > adhere to the ethos of Debian Med that there shall only be one package s/ethos/policy/ Ethos is a philosophical, policy a technical rule. Debian is about technology. > of anything in a distribution. In fact you can have many copies and > various versions of Zope/Plone running without interaction or > interference. > > He also will not abide by the decisions of the FHS > (http://www.pathname.com/fhs/) in deciding where to place files on the > distribution. According to Debian Med (and Andreas) there is not such > thing as the /opt directory and therefore the LANANA > (http://www.lanana.org/) decisions are not valid for Debian Med. This > makes it kind of difficult to build a package. I would be happy if you would quote private mails I sended you about my problems with the Torch package you builded. I told you what was necessary to do before Torch can be uploaded IMHO. I can not quote it publicly because there are private comments from you inside but I gave you explicite permisson to quote in public. I do not regard it as fair to do rants about my person and I definitely have no chance to hold your package outside of Debian (and I never would try) if you find a Debian developer who sponsors your package (and is able to convince ftpmaster to accept it - and this is the real hurdle ;-) ). > > It can be good or bad to use older versions. > > True. But I get to make the decision which I use in TORCH......he gets > to make the decision how to run the Debian Med distribution. From my > perspective he is hurting the chances of building the distribution he > wants to build. By maintaining Debian-Med meta packages I just decide which *existing* Debian package will be included in the meta-packages dependencies. I definitely would include an existing Torch package if there would be one inside Debian. > > Packages *have* been contributed/distributed. > > Really? Is there a Debian Med distribution for download that contains > these packages? I'm sorry, I looked as late as this afternoon and found > no such distribution nor even any "firm list" of packages planned for > distribution that have met Andreas requirements. Can you provide a > link? http://www.debian.org > I have always thought this would be a wonderful project. Certainly a > Knoppix distribution with the many applications listed at: > http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-med/ would be a great tool to > distribute at various trade shows etc. I would love if someone would pay me full time to build such a CD. Perhaps I should foreward this mail to my family members and they will be convinced that I should spend even more hours on sunday to work for Debian-Med. Kind regards Andreas. PS: Many thanks to Karsten who explained the ideas of Debian-Med in the previous postings perfectly.
