I really must apologise for my last email. It was sent in error. clicked
"reply to".

Sorry

Aidan



On Mon, 2005-02-14 at 13:06, Aidan M McGuire wrote:
> Adrian,
> 
> I seem to have come off the mailing list for openhealth and wonder is it
> just me or has something happened to the list?
> 
> Aidan McGuire
> www.bluefountain.com
> 
> ps A Surrey Health Informatics have opted to adopt plone & zope as their
> preferred technology for content and document management. We beat
> documentum :)
> http://www.bluefountain.com/news/NHSPCA_news
> 
> On Tue, 2005-01-11 at 22:05, Adrian Midgley wrote:
> > On Tue, 2005-01-11 at 15:56, Don Grodecki wrote:
> > > I am having arguments with my colleagues regarding some of the terms used 
> > > with respect to FOSS. Can anyone help me to understand what some of these 
> > > terms really mean?
> > > 
> > > Open
> > A term of art I think.
> > 
> > > Open Source Software
> > I would take the definition of the OSF, who trademarked it in the US at
> > least:-
> > http://www.opensource.org/docs/definition.php
> > "Open source doesn't just mean access to the source code. The
> > distribution terms of open-source software must comply with the
> > following criteria: ..."
> > 
> > I'd expect anyone asking those questions to also find useful an answer
> > to the question of what is Logiciel Libre/Free[1] Software
> > The premier reference has to be 
> > www.fsf.org
> > 
> > ([1] as in speech not as in beer)
> > 
> > > Software in the Public Domain
> > > Software licensed to the Public Domain
> > I think the latter of those two is impossible/a paradox.
> > 
> > > Ownership
> > Is theft.[2]
> > 
> > [2] Ah, but from whom?
> >     (and it is a quote, not an assertion)
> > 
> > > Copyright
> > Subsists automatically.  CopyLeft OTOH is a constituent of Free (Libre)
> > Software but may not be of all Open Source Software ... the BSD Licence
> > for instance does not preserve and enforce CopyLeft.
> > 
> > > License for Use
> > The owner of the copyright may give you licence for use.
> > If he has put it out under copyleft, he has given such licence to you,
> > and your aunts and cousins and anyone else, without trooubling you to
> > ask or him to count.  This saves a certain amount of effort when you are
> > trying to disseminate something.
> > 
> > 
> > > License for Derivation
> > An essential component of the Free Software licences such as the GPL,
> > and the Open Source licences.  You can alter it, with or without telling
> > anyone.  (If it is FLOSS you must distribute your source code
> > alterations if you distribute the compiled executable, but crucially in
> > FUD-busting terms you need not distribute it, and therefore need not
> > distribute the alterations at all to anyone.
> > (The real driver of FLOSS spreading is that it is usually rather silly
> > to give yourself extra recurrent work but _not_ redistributing and
> > having aggregated your changes with the base version, not the Gates
> > Commie creed.)
> > 
> > > License for Re-Distribution
> > An essential component of the Free Software licences such as the GPL,
> > and the Open Source licences.  
> > 
> > 
> > IANAL.
> 
> 

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