Uli -

I agree with Andy and Mohan.  Disable by default.  Can you please post a defect 
or enhancement req so that we can track this?
For users wanting the IPMI plugin - they should only have to change their 
configure command to get it.  Thx.

--michael


> -----Original Message-----
> From: mo...@fc [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 8:18 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Openhpi-devel] openHPI plugins
>
>
> Good idea Uli,
>
> If nobody wants it top be enabled in the next one year may be we could
> remove the plugin. Even if we do not remove, only some amount of disk
> space is wasted, no loading of dependencies, no waste of time when a
> build takes place etc.
>
> I support it.
>
> Mohan
>
>
> On Wed, 2010-07-21 at 15:26 +0200, Kleber, Ulrich (NSN - DE/Munich)
> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > some time ago, we had discussed shortly about deprecating the ipmi
> > plugin.
> >
> > I think we didn't come to a conclusion. So I would make a small
> > suggestion
> > for a first step or compromise.
> >
> > At the moment the build process per default builds the ipmi
> plugin. It
> > can
> > be disabled during configure (./configure --disable-ipmi), which you
> > need to
> > do if you want to build OpenHPI without installing OpenIPMI before.
> >
> > Could we per default have ipmi plugin disabled?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Uli
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: ext Bishop, Michael (ISB Linux/Telco)
> > > [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 5:38 PM
> > > To: 'Andy Cress'; [email protected]
> > > Subject: Re: [Openhpi-devel] openHPI plugins
> > >
> > > Andy -
> > >
> > > I don't think their would be an objection from HP - on
> > > deprecating the IPMI plug-in.  I would suggest that anyone on
> > > this mailing list who cares about the IPMI plugin should make
> > > their position known.
> > >
> > > I would also suggest that that if we decide to deprecate -
> > > that we continue to release the IPMI for a while - but mark
> > > the code, documentation, release notes, etc., indicating
> > > deprecation for this plugin.
> > >
> > > --michael
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Andy Cress [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 7:57 AM
> > > > To: [email protected]; Bishop, Michael (ISB
> > > > Linux/Telco)
> > > > Subject: Re: [Openhpi-devel] openHPI plugins
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Good question.  That isn't my decision.
> > > >
> > > > Michael,
> > > > Should the ipmi plugin be deprecated?  Are there any users
> > > of it that
> > > > would object?
> > > >
> > > > Andy
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Kleber, Ulrich (NSN - DE/Munich)
> > > [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 8:48 AM
> > > > To: [email protected]; [email protected]
> > > > Subject: Re: [Openhpi-devel] openHPI plugins
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > > thanks a lot, this explains it.
> > > > Do you think the ipmi plugin could be deprecated?
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Uli
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: ext Andy Cress [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 2:43 PM
> > > > > To: [email protected]; [email protected]
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Openhpi-devel] openHPI plugins
> > > > >
> > > > > RE: difference between the ipmi and ipmidirect plugins
> > > > > In the beginning, the two plugins were targeted at different
> > > > > segments of
> > > > > IPMI servers (conventional and bladed), but now they are
> > > simply two
> > > > > different approaches to the same goal.
> > > > >
> > > > > The ipmi plugin uses/requires OpenIPMI libraries in addition
> > > > > to openhpi
> > > > > in order to talk to the OpenIPMI driver.  It has become
> > > > > rather stale and
> > > > > didn't work at all for Intel IPMI servers the last time I
> > > > tested with
> > > > > it.  (bug 1565999 from 2006 is still Open)
> > > > >
> > > > > The ipmidirect plugin talks directly to the OpenIPMI
> > > > driver, and works
> > > > > fine for both conventional and bladed IPMI servers.  This is
> > > > > the choice
> > > > > that we use.
> > > > >
> > > > > Andy
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Kleber, Ulrich (NSN - DE/Munich)
> > > > [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 3:33 AM
> > > > > To: [email protected]; [email protected]
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Openhpi-devel] openHPI
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Lars,
> > > > > I didn't see any reply to your email on the
> reflector, but I was
> > > > > interested in the topic. I am not yet really an
> expert (yet) on
> > > > > the plugin, but maybe together we can progress with
> your topics.
> > > > > See inline.
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > Uli
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: ext Lars Wetzel [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 11:24 AM
> > > > > > To: [email protected];
> [email protected]
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [Openhpi-devel] openHPI
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Ric,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > yes, we debug the ipmi events as you describe below
> last week.
> > > > > > We could see that the Mx->M0->Mx events are missing.  So I
> > > > > > think it isn't a
> > > > > > problem of the openhpi/ipmidirect plugin.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But I want to take the opportunity and ask some short
> > > > > > questions regarding the
> > > > > > ipmidirect plugin before you leave the project.
> Maybe you can
> > > > > > help me to have
> > > > > > a better understanding of the ipmidirect plugin
> background. I
> > > > > > hope, I'm not
> > > > > > too late.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I know the openhpid/ipmidirect combination only by the code.
> > > > > > I never run it in
> > > > > > a system.
> > > > > > - I think the openhpid/ipmidirect isn't programmed
> to replace
> > > > > > a Shelf or
> > > > > > ChassisManager in an xTCA system. Is this correct?
> > > > >
> > > > > I think this is true.
> > > > > As far as I know, the ipmidirect plugin talks to the
> > > ChassisManager.
> > > > > At least it worked when I configured the daemon that way.
> > > > > However I am still a bit confused about the difference between
> > > > > ipmi plugin and ipmidirect plugin.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - I also miss some stuff from the xTCA Mapping Specification
> > > > > > (e.g. a SLOT
> > > > > > resource, like SYSTEM_CHASSIS - XYZ_SLOT - XYZ_RESOURCE).
> > > > > > Should the plugin
> > > > > > be SAF mapping specification compliant?
> > > > >
> > > > > I think the plugin should be compliant, but to which
> mapping spec?
> > > > > It looks like you refer to the xTCA mapping spec, which is not
> > > > > published yet.
> > > > > As soon as the new mapping spec is published, we should start
> > > > > working on a plugin compliant to that one.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hope that helps,
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > Uli
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks in forward and best wishes for the new job!
> > > > > > Lars
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tuesday, 9. February 2010 02:47, Ric White wrote:
> > > > > > > Hello Ayman,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We tried to make the IPMI plug-ins as general purpose as
> > > > > > possible, but
> > > > > > > sometimes a bit of modification is  required to make them
> > > > > > play well with
> > > > > > > specific hardware.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > To check if the daemon is receiving and
> processing the IMPI
> > > > > > events for
> > > > > > > hot swap as Lars suggested, you can add the following
> > > > > parameters to
> > > > > > > the libipmidirect handler stanza in your
> openhpi.conf file:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     logflags = "file"    # "" means logging off; also use
> > > > > > "file stdout"
> > > > > > >     logfile = "ipmidirect"  # log file name prefix;
> > > > ${logfile}.log
> > > > > > >     logfile_max = "10000" # maximum log file size
> in kilobytes
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This will create a ipmidirect.log file that could be used
> > > > > > to see what is
> > > > > > > really going on.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, 2010-01-26 at 14:35 +0000, Ayman Daoud wrote:
> > > > > > > > Dear openHPI representative,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I have been working on a project to monitor the uTCA
> > > > > > hardware using
> > > > > > > > openHPI. I am using openhpi-2.14.1 with the ipmidirect
> > > > > > plugin. During
> > > > > > > > my work (using hpi_shell) I experienced the following
> > > > > questionable
> > > > > > > > behaviours which might be bugs:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 1. if FRU is added to the chassis after the daemon
> > > > has started,
> > > > > > > > openHPI do not detect that FRU; No RPT entry
> added in the
> > > > > > RPT table
> > > > > > > > for the newly added FRU nor an event is generated to
> > > > > indicate the
> > > > > > > > addition of the FRU. (this is different from
> > > > extracting FRU and
> > > > > > > > reinstalling it which is fine except for what is stated
> > > > > > in #2 and 3)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 2. SAHPI_HS_STATE_NOT_PRESENT event is not
> generated when
> > > > > > the FRU is
> > > > > > > > removed from the chassis.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 3. when FRU is removed from the chassis, the
> > > > > > corresponding RPT entry
> > > > > > > > is not deleted from the RPT table.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 4. if the daemon start with a FRU plugged into the
> > > > > chassis but the
> > > > > > > > latch is not pushed in; we see a RPT entry for the
> > > > > > resource modelling
> > > > > > > > the FRU, but when the latch is pushed in, no event is
> > > > > generated to
> > > > > > > > indicate the transition from INACTIVE (or INSERTION
> > > > > > PENDING) state to
> > > > > > > > ACTIVE state.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 5. saHpiHotSwapStateGet() return an error when it is
> > > > called for
> > > > > > > > resources that have the FRU capability but not the HS
> > > > > > capability. the
> > > > > > > > HPI specs states that this function should be
> enabled for
> > > > > > resources
> > > > > > > > with the FRU capability.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This (your #5) appears to be a defect in the daemon. It is
> > > > > > checking the
> > > > > > > resource's ResourceCapabilities flag, and if
> > > > > > > SAHPI_CAPABILITY_MANAGED_HOTSWAP is not set, it will
> > > > always return
> > > > > > > SA_ERR_HPI_CAPABILITY. According to the B.03.01
> > > > > > Specification, it should
> > > > > > > instead be checking that SAHPI_CAPABILITY_FRU is
> set. Looks
> > > > > > like this
> > > > > > > was a change in behavior between the B.02.01 and
> B.03.01 HPI
> > > > > > > Specifications.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have submitted bug #2948127 for this.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > > > Ric White
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Any help with these issues will be greatly appreciated.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > > > >
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