OK.
I will update the proposal for IBTA based on this feedback
and all other feedback posted.
I will still separate private data usage proposal
and port mapping one.

If your Apps depends on 64 bytes of private data,
please, raise your voice now.
ARkady

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Frank [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 7:19 PM
> To: Richard Frank; Lentini, James; Roland Dreier
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected]; Davis, Arlin R
> Subject: Re: [dat-discussions] RE: [openib-general] Re: iWARP 
> emulationprotocol
> 
> 
> It's probably fine to go ahead and reduce the IPC private 
> data - I think we 
> (Oracle) can work around this.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Richard Frank" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "James Lentini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Roland Dreier" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[email protected]>; 
> "Davis, Arlin R" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 7:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [dat-discussions] RE: [openib-general] Re: iWARP 
> emulationprotocol
> 
> 
> > Oracle's uDAPL ipc implementation uses 64 bytes of private 
> connection
> > data - currently - some of this is the result of having 64 
> bytes to use at 
> > the start - so we designed around this. We can probably reduce this 
> > somewhat. And of course if we want to rewrite our 
> connection handling for 
> > uDAPL (add our own wire protocol) we can probably skip 
> using the uDAPL 
> > connection data all together.
> >
> > For RDS we use our own connection data sent via datagrams which has 
> > always
> > been part of the Oracle UDP ipc implementation.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Roland Dreier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "James Lentini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: "Richard Frank" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
> > <[email protected]>; "Davis, Arlin R" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 5:56 PM
> > Subject: Re: [dat-discussions] RE: [openib-general] Re: iWARP 
> > emulationprotocol
> >
> >
> >>    James> The D is somewhat misleading. It refers to the
> >>    James> functionality provider to the consumer application.
> >>
> >> Right, that's what we're talking about.  The RDS 
> implementation only 
> >> needs a few bytes of private data on top of the IP address 
> info.  So 
> >> the RDS implementation itself is clearly OK with any of 
> the proposals 
> >> being discussed here.
> >>
> >> However, Rick mentioned that Oracle needs 64 bytes of 
> private data in 
> >> both directions for connections.  My question was how 
> Oracle works on 
> >> top of RDS, which does not provide any private data to consumers.
> >>
> >> - R.
> >>
> > 
> 
> 
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